👏 Poison 👏 your 👏 data ☠️
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@veronica @alex@pawb.fun @alice also Data driven and compressed Data
@alex@moreati.org.uk @veronica @alex@pawb.fun @alice I love this thread so much
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@alice @JamesDBartlett3 Thanks for all this info. Does anyone have DJT’s email address, so I can hit 2 birds with one stone?
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@alice @vantiss I disagree with the oil comparison. A dollar worth of oil has the energy content of 100 human work hours - or something like that. In capitalism it would never not make sense to burn that oil, and burning it is exactly what's killing people. It's not just a lobbying issue, it's also the smart choice to burn oil if the only target is profits for the next ~10 years and staying ahead of the competition. I don't see a point or strategy where burning oil so that companies cannot makes any sense.
As for AI, there is currently no profitable business model anyway. It's all a giant bubble. Maybe we can accelerate its demise somehow, that would be great. Right now it seems the investors are irrational and don't really care that there are no profits.
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Poison your data 
️@alice Sorry, I have no matching Brent Spiner Meme ...
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Yeah, that's pretty funnier then...
Data is also one of my favorite Characters from StarTrek - Next Generation. The AI's philosophized much ealier about their Being and Stuff before it was cool and everybody talking about. So StarTrek was always ahead of its Time. Live long and prosper.
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a fair bit of the advice in here seems really good, but from what I know, AdNauseam isn't really worth using over just uBO
at least as of when I last looked into it a couple years ago: it uses more resources on your machine, doesn't really make any significant difference for the companies, and the high volume of "clicks" from you just makes you far more trackable since no normal person browsing would do so
also, I think it might be worth editing the last point to say "hopefully none of you are using LLMs, but if you're someone who does..." 🩵
@vantiss @alice Yes, AdNauseam is out of date with the way that today's web ads work.
The good news for spoofers is that the way that adtech co.s have made the ad tracking work now (in order to get around the absence of 3rd-party cookies on Safari) means that there are a lot more and easier opportunities to add wrong data.
afaik there is still no extension that does "id spoofing" or "id bridging" but borrowing this adfraud technique would be effective and hard to spot https://www.adexchanger.com/marketers/programmatic-companies-wrestle-with-id-bridging-and-what-counts-as-fraud/
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@vantiss @alice Yes, AdNauseam is out of date with the way that today's web ads work.
The good news for spoofers is that the way that adtech co.s have made the ad tracking work now (in order to get around the absence of 3rd-party cookies on Safari) means that there are a lot more and easier opportunities to add wrong data.
afaik there is still no extension that does "id spoofing" or "id bridging" but borrowing this adfraud technique would be effective and hard to spot https://www.adexchanger.com/marketers/programmatic-companies-wrestle-with-id-bridging-and-what-counts-as-fraud/
@vantiss @alice and people interested in spoofing might also be interested in a talk coming up in about 1 hour on Zoom
Helen Nissenbaum: Why Obfuscation is (still) Needed (more than ever)
This talk examines data obfuscation, defined as the “production, inclusion, addition, or communication of misleading, ambiguous, of false data in an effort to evade, distract, or confuse”. The concept emerged from early interventions such as TrackMeNot (2006) and AdNauseam (2014)...
https://events.iu.edu/bloomington/event/2160883-why-obfuscation-is-still-needed-more-than-ever
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@djtoebeans @isol @alice if forced to enter a number in american format i always give Jenny’s number, because its the only valid one i know!
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The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.
Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.
Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).
Using VPNs set to different locations.
Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.
Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.
If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.
@alice I'd hate to be your enemy
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@alice I'd hate to be your enemy
@DJGummikuh it's the little touches
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@DJGummikuh it's the little touches
@alice "here, have a little touch of cyanide..."
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@wurzelmann @flipper @alice I'd use commas and semicolons - different countries, different separators...
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@wurzelmann @flipper @alice I'd use commas and semicolons - different countries, different separators...
@wurzelmann @flipper @alice
adding "\n", that can break things, too (don't ask me how I know this) -
The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.
Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.
Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).
Using VPNs set to different locations.
Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.
Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.
If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.
@alice Advantage of creative data entries: I get birthday greetings from companies throughout the whole year
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The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.
Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.
Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).
Using VPNs set to different locations.
Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.
Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.
If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.
@alice AdNauseam is a good tip! Will look into it 🥰
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@alice I've toyed with the idea of setting up a headless Chrome instance to just ask "but why?" to ChatGPT all day to drive up their inference costs.
@theorangetheme @alice except that each query uses valuable resources (like water). Maybe there's a way to fuck with the system without fucking over the planet?
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The goal is to make corporate data less profitable.
Even stuff as simple as setting your birthdate to 1970-01-01 everywhere, adding [TEST] or [DELETED] as your name or account notes anywhere you don't need them to know your name.
Using plugins like AdNauseam to poison ad trackers (and cost them marketing dollars).
Using VPNs set to different locations.
Signing into data broker sites to "correct" outdated info (they'll often let you do that with little-to-no proof of identity, but will require your passport or state ID in order to delete your info). Bonus points if you correct it to someone else's info on their site that's similar to yours.
Only fill in required fields when you sign up for anything, but only provide correct info if it matters for you to use the service, otherwise provide plausible, but incorrect, data.
If you use LLMs anywhere, use the free tier and always vote thumbs up for bad answers and down for good ones. It wastes their resources and drives up their costs while making their training data worse.
@alice This is all great advice.
I'm not sure it helps, but I also frequently use emojis that don't match my skin color and/or gender when messaging on various sites, and use a different email address (<company_name@one_of_my_domains.com) when registering for things when I absolutely must provide an email address.
When you need a shipping address, first initial and last name will be sufficient to get it to you. In many cases, just initials work.
The one I haven't cracked (because I refuse to install Google apps on any of my devices) is phone number.
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@sassitina
*POS is the most ironic technical acronym. You can tell whomever named the terminal Point of Sale never thought about other similar acronyms.
@miclgael @alice
