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i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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    #44

    @eniko bring back rating code by size.

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    • tobiwankenobi@kolektiva.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #45

      @eniko

      The general rule of thumb seems to be: The further you go back in time, the better the products, be they online or offline.

      All courtesy of the fucked-up neoliberal capitalism that's festering across the whole world.

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      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

        renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #46

        @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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        • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

          @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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          #47

          @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

          I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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          • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

            @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #48

            @badtux @eniko
            Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #49

              @eniko
              I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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              • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

                @me @badtux @eniko
                It's like building on quicksand.

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                drchaos@sauropods.win
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                #50

                @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
                ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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                • svelmoe@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #51

                  @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                    iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #52

                    @eniko Agreed.

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                    • travis_nice@bne.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #53

                      @datarama @eniko

                      100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

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                      • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                        @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                        As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                        #software #softwaredevelopment

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                        #54

                        @badtux
                        I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
                        @eniko

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                          #55

                          @eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

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                          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                            #56

                            @eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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                            • blyxyas@tech.lgbtB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #57

                              @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I do not only want my toaster to be part of a botnet, I want my toaster to not have electronics AT ALL.

                              There is no reason for my fridge, toaster or oven to have a microcontroller. Really, we've been doing these things a century and today we seem to default to adding microcontrollers to everything.

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                              • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                #58

                                @eniko
                                isnt þe unix philosophy "every program should do one job and do it well"? can we just make þat law? i would love a world where every program solved / did one þing i wanted and nþn else.

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                                  #59

                                  @bencourtice @eniko
                                  I still call programs for desktop use programs. "App" for me is a word for mobile device programs.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                    #60

                                    @eniko Preach.

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                      #61

                                      @eniko this sounds exactly like my kinda job (well except the paid part)

                                      *Looks at my projects which have an update every few months with few features*

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                        #62

                                        @eniko I can switch on a BBC micro and load View in less time than I can wake my Windows 11 laptop and load MS Word. Seems that the faster computers become; the longer it takes to do the same things with them.

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                                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                          #63

                                          @eniko +9001%
                                          I want smaller, auditable, reproduceable and simple systems!

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