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i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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  • tobiwankenobi@kolektiva.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    tobiwankenobi@kolektiva.social
    wrote on sidst redigeret af
    #45

    @eniko

    The general rule of thumb seems to be: The further you go back in time, the better the products, be they online or offline.

    All courtesy of the fucked-up neoliberal capitalism that's festering across the whole world.

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    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

      renardboy@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      renardboy@mastodon.social
      wrote on sidst redigeret af
      #46

      @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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      • renardboy@mastodon.socialR renardboy@mastodon.social

        @eniko Preach. I want developers to be artisans and craftspeople who build for the ages.

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        wrote on sidst redigeret af
        #47

        @eniko As a matter of fact I want this to be the de facto approach to how we make new things but sometimes when I say this people think I mean stuff like woodworking and blacksmithing which, yes, but also computers, and phones, and bicycles electric and acoustic, and everything else.

        I want *everything* to be made by people who have cause to take pride in their work.

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        • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

          @kirtai @eniko That said the C programs I wrote in the early 90s still compile fine today

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          kirtai@tech.lgbt
          wrote on sidst redigeret af
          #48

          @badtux @eniko
          Yeah, but I've seen some that modern C compilers absolutely hate, such as gnu smalltalk.

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          • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

            i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

            brouhaha@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            brouhaha@mastodon.social
            wrote on sidst redigeret af
            #49

            @eniko
            I like small programs and I cannot lie.

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            • kirtai@tech.lgbtK kirtai@tech.lgbt

              @me @badtux @eniko
              It's like building on quicksand.

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              drchaos@sauropods.win
              wrote on sidst redigeret af
              #50

              @kirtai @me @badtux @eniko b.b..b
              ..but surely quicksand would make building even quicker? It's in the name, innit? 🤔

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              • svelmoe@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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                svelmoe@hachyderm.io
                wrote on sidst redigeret af
                #51

                @datarama @daviddoes @eniko But don't you want the "better" experience 😄

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                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                  iveyline@mastodon.nzI This user is from outside of this forum
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                  iveyline@mastodon.nz
                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                  #52

                  @eniko Agreed.

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                  • travis_nice@bne.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                    travis_nice@bne.social
                    wrote on sidst redigeret af
                    #53

                    @datarama @eniko

                    100%! Why does my fridge need contacts and calendars?

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                    • badtux@mastodon.socialB badtux@mastodon.social

                      @eniko But then the boss would have fewer people to manage, and be unable to justify his job. Most software changes are about employment for engineers, not necessity. Grr.

                      As a software engineer I want computer languages and frameworks that stay stable for decades rather than have a new release every year that obsoletes old programs and requires a rewrite. But I don't get to have that :(.

                      #software #softwaredevelopment

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                      wrote on sidst redigeret af
                      #54

                      @badtux
                      I think there's enough work refactoring, cleaning up code, fixing old bugs, improving the testsuite, etc. that a same-sized team could do it for years without adding new features.
                      @eniko

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                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                        #55

                        @eniko I also want the updates to spend more time in UAT/Staging instead of being pushed straight into production.

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                        • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                          #56

                          @eniko @carol https://mutable-states.com/slow-code.html

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                          • blyxyas@tech.lgbtB This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #57

                            @datarama @daviddoes @eniko I do not only want my toaster to be part of a botnet, I want my toaster to not have electronics AT ALL.

                            There is no reason for my fridge, toaster or oven to have a microcontroller. Really, we've been doing these things a century and today we seem to default to adding microcontrollers to everything.

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                            • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                              wrote on sidst redigeret af
                              #58

                              @eniko
                              isnt þe unix philosophy "every program should do one job and do it well"? can we just make þat law? i would love a world where every program solved / did one þing i wanted and nþn else.

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                                #59

                                @bencourtice @eniko
                                I still call programs for desktop use programs. "App" for me is a word for mobile device programs.

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                                • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                  i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                  wrote on sidst redigeret af
                                  #60

                                  @eniko Preach.

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                                  • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

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                                    #61

                                    @eniko this sounds exactly like my kinda job (well except the paid part)

                                    *Looks at my projects which have an update every few months with few features*

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                                    • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                                      technicaladept@techhub.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #62

                                      @eniko I can switch on a BBC micro and load View in less time than I can wake my Windows 11 laptop and load MS Word. Seems that the faster computers become; the longer it takes to do the same things with them.

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                                      • eniko@mastodon.gamedev.placeE eniko@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        i want smaller applications with fewer updates made by people who are paid more to produce less code and i'm not kidding

                                        netzblockierer@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #63

                                        @eniko +9001%
                                        I want smaller, auditable, reproduceable and simple systems!

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                                        • jhooper@techhub.socialJ jhooper@techhub.social

                                          @eniko can we also request the coders to have a nap time during the day? Rest is important, and I'm not kidding about that either.

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                                          #64

                                          @jhooper @eniko if you work remote you can nap whenever you want

                                          source: I do this every day

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