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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

    @TimWardCam That's not my main concern, but I think there's exceptions for device management solutions. Also they could just register with Google if needed.

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    #27

    @grote @TimWardCam maybe it's time to revive the device owner privileged extension at that point 🤔🙈.

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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      #28

      @grote This is utter madness. I don't know how we can push back as users, but we must.

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day
        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
        * confirm that you accept the risks
        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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        #29

        @grote

        Tbh, considering that border agents also sideload their spyware and then wipe it off when you have to hand them your phone unlocked and they vanish with it for a few minutes this is probably a good thing though.

        Also you've only to go through it once.

        The only question I have is if they'll allow Apps to query this, if they do then that'll be the bigger issue as then almost all anti-cheat, anti-tamper, and "root detection" frameworks will add it instantly...

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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day
          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
          * confirm that you accept the risks
          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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          #30

          @grote "wait a day" -- PITA. I understand where they're coming from, in terms of CYA and psychology, but that feels like when telcos mess around with you and refuse to carrier-unlock phones you own.

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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            #31

            @grote I don't want to give my biometric data to the Fuckheads. Let's go for harmony OS. It's better anyway as far as I can tell.

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            • egoldblatt@gardenstate.socialE egoldblatt@gardenstate.social

              @grote This is utter madness. I don't know how we can push back as users, but we must.

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              #32

              @egoldblatt @grote

              Sending a DMA complaint to the EU commission for example.

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              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                * enable developer options
                * confirm that you are not tricked
                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                * wait one day
                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                * confirm that you accept the risks
                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #33

                @grote confirm with biometrics...?

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day
                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                  #34

                  @grote

                  Google lingo: "power users". Jeez... I'm most definitely not a "power user", I just want to download apps from @fdroidorg , @IzzyOnDroidOrg , @accrescent . It's not something complicated for a minority, downloading from repositories other than Google Play Store is a choice everyday users can make.

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                  • ar1@mastodon.socialA ar1@mastodon.social

                    @grote I don't want to give my biometric data to the Fuckheads. Let's go for harmony OS. It's better anyway as far as I can tell.

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                    #35

                    @grote or any de-googelized OS.

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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                      * enable developer options
                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                      * wait one day
                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                      navi@catcatnya.comN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #36

                      @grote WAIT ONE DAY??????? WTF

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                      • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                        @grote one year later we've updated our policies

                        * wait extra day
                        * enable accelerometer
                        * wank the phone for 10 minutes
                        * wait another day

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                        #37

                        @lkundrak @grote

                        I double checked the list.
                        But sadly, it does not involve any wanking. 🙁

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                        • navi@catcatnya.comN navi@catcatnya.com

                          @grote WAIT ONE DAY??????? WTF

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                          #38

                          @grote That's WORSE than Apple at this point

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day
                            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                            * confirm that you accept the risks
                            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                            #39

                            @grote Non "latus onus" sed "installatio" vocatur.

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day
                              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                              * confirm that you accept the risks
                              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                              lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #40

                              @grote what the fuck. none of this is at all acceptable

                              let people install whatever apps they want, without any fearmongering

                              it's supposed to be their device
                              ​​

                              lumi@snug.moeL lispi314@udongein.xyzL ryanprior@mastodon.socialR hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH 4 Replies Last reply
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                              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                * enable developer options
                                * confirm that you are not tricked
                                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                * wait one day
                                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                * confirm that you accept the risks
                                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                #41

                                @grote
                                > the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                I look at it this way:

                                One market of SoCs that support a single bodged together Linux kernel fork. Two separate but related app ecosystems. The people that are fine with Google Play Android are subsidizing the cost of my hardware.

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day
                                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                  #42

                                  @grote@chaos.social ​​

                                  RE: https://thegayagenda.fans/notes/af12c2c51tnji5km

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                                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                    * enable developer options
                                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                    * wait one day
                                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                    #43

                                    @grote

                                    Get off android and apple. Its time

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                                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                      * enable developer options
                                      * confirm that you are not tricked
                                      * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                      * wait one day
                                      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                      * confirm that you accept the risks
                                      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                      #44

                                      @grote Perhaps Windows and MacOS should do this for when you want to sideload Chrome, including corporate machines. Just so Google get depth to the feedback on this process.

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                        * enable developer options
                                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                        * wait one day
                                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                        #45

                                        @grote Time for a PinePhone.

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                                        • old_angry_queer@girlcock.clubO old_angry_queer@girlcock.club

                                          @terminaltilt yeah, i don't like that. i don't even give my phone my fingerprints in the first place.

                                          @grote

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                                          #46

                                          @old_angry_queer @terminaltilt @grote the screenshot literally says "or device PIN"

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