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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • fifisch@social.vivaldi.netF fifisch@social.vivaldi.net

    @nazokiyoubinbou @grote However scary the whole new Google process is for the non-expert user, installing a new OS on your daily driver phone is a hundred times scarier.

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    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #18

    @FifiSch @grote I don't really understand that. The instructions are so simple and detailed and the "new OS" is basically exactly the same thing right down to having the same basic startup configuration and etc. The only difference is the Google connections are optional and one can decide for themselves how far they want to go.

    It's pretty much just tapping a few things, then copying and pasting two lines or so. Once it's booted you wouldn't tell it apart from stock other than its cleanliness. It's easier than installing Linux on a PC and that's actually a lot easier and less scary than people have been convinced.

    I bet if people didn't let Google, Apple, and etc convince them that they are so scared of installing third party options we never would have reached this point.

    razemix@mamutovo.czR epic_null@infosec.exchangeE tedmielczarek@mastodon.socialT confusomu@twoot.siteC 4 Replies Last reply
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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #19

      @grote ctrl-alt-fsckit, that just put making a de-googled phone way the f*** up there on my priority list.

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      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        * enable developer options
        * confirm that you are not tricked
        * restart phone and re-authenticate
        * wait one day
        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
        * confirm that you accept the risks
        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #20

        @grote

        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

        I had expected worse, as long as the phone otherwise works during a 24 hour security delay and I can set allow side loading without an expiry it is acceptable.

        Unlikely that more can be asked for as what that notice offers will placate politicians and courts.

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        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

          * enable developer options
          * confirm that you are not tricked
          * restart phone and re-authenticate
          * wait one day
          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
          * confirm that you accept the risks
          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

          mcepl@en.osm.townM This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #21

          @grote

          I truly honestly thought it was a parody. Unbelieveable! What will happen to #Aurora ?

          #Fail #LineageOSNow

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          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

            * enable developer options
            * confirm that you are not tricked
            * restart phone and re-authenticate
            * wait one day
            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
            * confirm that you accept the risks
            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

            computersaysno@digitalcourage.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #22

            @grote the argument is nice:

            "57% of surveyed adults experienced a scam in the past year, resulting in a global consumer loss of $442 billion"

            But the real question then is: How much scam and loss is due to malicious side loaded apps?

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

              mo@mastodon.mlM This user is from outside of this forum
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              mo@mastodon.ml
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #23

              @grote and then

              "anonymous statistics shows almost no one using «advanced flow» so we're removing it!"

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              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                * enable developer options
                * confirm that you are not tricked
                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                * wait one day
                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                * confirm that you accept the risks
                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                retrosponge@kind.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #24

                @grote I will jump through whatever hoops Google fucking ask for out of sheer spite at this point.😡

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day
                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                  kepi@mamutovo.czK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #25

                  @grote I suppose you forgot, that you have to do this only during full moon?

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                    * enable developer options
                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                    * wait one day
                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #26

                    @grote And this is the *starting position*.

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                    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                      @TimWardCam That's not my main concern, but I think there's exceptions for device management solutions. Also they could just register with Google if needed.

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                      bubu@chaos.social
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #27

                      @grote @TimWardCam maybe it's time to revive the device owner privileged extension at that point 🤔🙈.

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                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                        * enable developer options
                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                        * wait one day
                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                        egoldblatt@gardenstate.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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                        egoldblatt@gardenstate.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #28

                        @grote This is utter madness. I don't know how we can push back as users, but we must.

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                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                          * enable developer options
                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                          * wait one day
                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                          agowa338@chaos.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #29

                          @grote

                          Tbh, considering that border agents also sideload their spyware and then wipe it off when you have to hand them your phone unlocked and they vanish with it for a few minutes this is probably a good thing though.

                          Also you've only to go through it once.

                          The only question I have is if they'll allow Apps to query this, if they do then that'll be the bigger issue as then almost all anti-cheat, anti-tamper, and "root detection" frameworks will add it instantly...

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day
                            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                            * confirm that you accept the risks
                            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #30

                            @grote "wait a day" -- PITA. I understand where they're coming from, in terms of CYA and psychology, but that feels like when telcos mess around with you and refuse to carrier-unlock phones you own.

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day
                              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                              * confirm that you accept the risks
                              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

                              ar1@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                              ar1@mastodon.social
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #31

                              @grote I don't want to give my biometric data to the Fuckheads. Let's go for harmony OS. It's better anyway as far as I can tell.

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                              • egoldblatt@gardenstate.socialE egoldblatt@gardenstate.social

                                @grote This is utter madness. I don't know how we can push back as users, but we must.

                                agowa338@chaos.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                agowa338@chaos.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #32

                                @egoldblatt @grote

                                Sending a DMA complaint to the EU commission for example.

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day
                                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                  faduda@mastodon.ie
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #33

                                  @grote confirm with biometrics...?

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                                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                    * enable developer options
                                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                    * wait one day
                                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #34

                                    @grote

                                    Google lingo: "power users". Jeez... I'm most definitely not a "power user", I just want to download apps from @fdroidorg , @IzzyOnDroidOrg , @accrescent . It's not something complicated for a minority, downloading from repositories other than Google Play Store is a choice everyday users can make.

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                                    • ar1@mastodon.socialA ar1@mastodon.social

                                      @grote I don't want to give my biometric data to the Fuckheads. Let's go for harmony OS. It's better anyway as far as I can tell.

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                                      ar1@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #35

                                      @grote or any de-googelized OS.

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                                      • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                        Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                        * enable developer options
                                        * confirm that you are not tricked
                                        * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                        * wait one day
                                        * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                        * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                        * confirm that you accept the risks
                                        * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                        https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                        navi@catcatnya.com
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #36

                                        @grote WAIT ONE DAY??????? WTF

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                                        • lkundrak@metalhead.clubL lkundrak@metalhead.club

                                          @grote one year later we've updated our policies

                                          * wait extra day
                                          * enable accelerometer
                                          * wank the phone for 10 minutes
                                          * wait another day

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                                          mndflayr@metalhead.club
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #37

                                          @lkundrak @grote

                                          I double checked the list.
                                          But sadly, it does not involve any wanking. 🙁

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