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  3. Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

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  • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

    Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

    Yeah. Me neither.

    This is a toot about operating systems.

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    #31

    @ptoothfish Worse is when you’ve had a car for 12 years and realize it has a feature you never knew it had! 😳

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    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

      Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

      Yeah. Me neither.

      This is a toot about operating systems.

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      #32

      @ptoothfish I‘d ask *which* operating system, but, well… ehm…

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        @cascheranno @DirtyAnCom @ptoothfish

        In principle I like putting big screens in cars. Then one can have a nice large map, and show other relevant information. And also do the "big" settings one usually does once or rarely - while not driving.

        But for everything which has to be controlled either regularly while driving or is time critical there has to be an other appropriate (easy, takes practically no attention) way for doing the command.

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        #33

        @jonasgraphie @cascheranno @ptoothfish I like a nice screen for maps, too, and that's about it. But, also, I do feel like I was "smarter" before having GPS constantly telling me where to go. At one time, I had a real estate license (hated being a real estate agent and didn't last long), and knowing how to get around my city by memory was a sense of pride. Ultimately, I prefer just a phone in a mount for navigation. Phones have gotten pretty big. Heads-up displays were a concept I really digged, too.

        But all the other things, like climate control and radio, are way less attention-grabbing when there is a physical button. It feels safer when you can just reach down and turn a dial or press a button without taking my eyes off the road.

        I have committed to only driving used cars that are 20+ years old, because I don't want all the tracking and like the physicality of them. Plus, old cars are easier to fix and maintain, oneself. #RightToRepair

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        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

          Yeah. Me neither.

          This is a toot about operating systems.

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          #34

          @ptoothfish actually the operating system need not change other than improved capabilities and performance. User Interfaces generally don’t need to change other than correcting mistakes. Applications changing the UI obviously either got it wrong the first time or are just trying to justify cost increase for the same functionality.

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          • giffordjames@mas.toG giffordjames@mas.to

            @ptoothfish I‘d ask *which* operating system, but, well… ehm…

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            #35

            @GiffordJames i had one in mind but everyone hating on every operating system has been insightful 🤣

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            • virtualbri@mastodon.onlineV virtualbri@mastodon.online

              @ptoothfish :spittake: God I laughed so hard at this. And then imagined mandatory drill upgrades that moved the power button each time. And then laughed some more.

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              #36

              @virtualbri This sounds like a Hitchhiker’s Guide bit. @ptoothfish

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              • jacobrealo@tenforward.socialJ jacobrealo@tenforward.social

                @virtualbri This sounds like a Hitchhiker’s Guide bit. @ptoothfish

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                #37

                @jacobrealo @virtualbri wouldn't it make drills and impact drivers more fun if forward and reverse were just random?

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                • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                  Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                  Yeah. Me neither.

                  This is a toot about operating systems.

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                  #38

                  @ptoothfish also tesla's

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                  • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                    @jacobrealo @virtualbri wouldn't it make drills and impact drivers more fun if forward and reverse were just random?

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                    #39

                    @ptoothfish @virtualbri

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                    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                      Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                      Yeah. Me neither.

                      This is a toot about operating systems.

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                      #40

                      @ptoothfish say drill- and carmakers: "sry, our fault" and buld in obsolescence so they don't last 8+ years

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                      • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                        Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                        Yeah. Me neither.

                        This is a toot about operating systems.

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                        #41

                        @ptoothfish this could also be about the EV market.

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                        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                          Yeah. Me neither.

                          This is a toot about operating systems.

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                          #42

                          @ptoothfish i post something to this effect semi-regularly and i almost always get pushback from people. It boggles me

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                          • admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com

                            @cascheranno @ptoothfish I mean this is pretty much what I *have* done because have you seen cars these days??? My 2009 Pontiac slowly rots on the street while I walk and bike because I am *not* buying one of these rolling enshittifications.

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                            #43

                            If it wasn't for the fact that I periodically have to drive appx 15-20 miles to see my family around a super busy interstate, I'd consider a golf cart for the times I have too much I can't just walk to the store.
                            @admin @cascheranno @ptoothfish

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                            • bri7@social.treehouse.systemsB bri7@social.treehouse.systems

                              @ptoothfish i post something to this effect semi-regularly and i almost always get pushback from people. It boggles me

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                              #44

                              @bri7 a few people have hinted to me that i might mean UI not OS but... it hasn't been too savage 😅

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                              • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                @bri7 a few people have hinted to me that i might mean UI not OS but... it hasn't been too savage 😅

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                                #45

                                @ptoothfish they should take it up with the english language authorities who most definitely treat the two words as effectively interchangeable

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                                • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                  Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                  Yeah. Me neither.

                                  This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                  #46

                                  @ptoothfish I'm sorry. I HATE that with a white hot hate.

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                                  • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                    Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                    Yeah. Me neither.

                                    This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                    #47

                                    @ptoothfish At least that ten-year-old camera very much is still fully functional and can still take good pics, particularly if it's a decent SLR.

                                    For example, the Canon EOS 5D II and Sony a900 are nearly 20-year-old SLRs and they're still very much respectable cameras by modern standards, at 21MP and 24.6MP respectively, and being full-frame on top of that.

                                    Both are old enough to still use basic CF cards though, so if you're still rocking an SLR that old, you'll both need to source some CF cards and a way to read them.

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                                    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                      Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                      Yeah. Me neither.

                                      This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                      #48

                                      @ptoothfish 90% of my tech troubleshooting is old people who get confused because the latest crapware phone update shuffled everything around again

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                                      • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                        Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                        Yeah. Me neither.

                                        This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                        #49

                                        @ptoothfish

                                        Not gonna lie, I did at one point wonder what it'd be like to drive a car with an aircraft-style throttle.

                                        My curiosity was satisfied when I played #EliteDangerous with a throttle-and-stick setup. Ground vehicles in the game work exactly as I had envisioned.

                                        It was okay, but only if the throttle controls torque. If the throttle controls speed (i.e. computer controls torque) then you'll lurch a lot and probably bump into stuff. (The game lets you select either mode.)

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                                        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                          Yeah. Me neither.

                                          This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                          #50

                                          @ptoothfish I hear you loud and clear. But sometimes necessity is the mother of invention. Our developer sadly passed away, and I had to use AI to rewrite our charity's front-end from scratch. It's different, but the same. Sometimes there's a reason for change?

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