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  3. Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

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  • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

    Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

    Yeah. Me neither.

    This is a toot about operating systems.

    pearofdoom@cloudisland.nzP This user is from outside of this forum
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    #38

    @ptoothfish also tesla's

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    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

      @jacobrealo @virtualbri wouldn't it make drills and impact drivers more fun if forward and reverse were just random?

      jacobrealo@tenforward.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      #39

      @ptoothfish @virtualbri

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      • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

        Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

        Yeah. Me neither.

        This is a toot about operating systems.

        odradek@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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        #40

        @ptoothfish say drill- and carmakers: "sry, our fault" and buld in obsolescence so they don't last 8+ years

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        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

          Yeah. Me neither.

          This is a toot about operating systems.

          david@theblower.auD This user is from outside of this forum
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          #41

          @ptoothfish this could also be about the EV market.

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          • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

            Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

            Yeah. Me neither.

            This is a toot about operating systems.

            bri7@social.treehouse.systemsB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #42

            @ptoothfish i post something to this effect semi-regularly and i almost always get pushback from people. It boggles me

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            • admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com

              @cascheranno @ptoothfish I mean this is pretty much what I *have* done because have you seen cars these days??? My 2009 Pontiac slowly rots on the street while I walk and bike because I am *not* buying one of these rolling enshittifications.

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              #43

              If it wasn't for the fact that I periodically have to drive appx 15-20 miles to see my family around a super busy interstate, I'd consider a golf cart for the times I have too much I can't just walk to the store.
              @admin @cascheranno @ptoothfish

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              • bri7@social.treehouse.systemsB bri7@social.treehouse.systems

                @ptoothfish i post something to this effect semi-regularly and i almost always get pushback from people. It boggles me

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                #44

                @bri7 a few people have hinted to me that i might mean UI not OS but... it hasn't been too savage 😅

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                • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                  @bri7 a few people have hinted to me that i might mean UI not OS but... it hasn't been too savage 😅

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                  #45

                  @ptoothfish they should take it up with the english language authorities who most definitely treat the two words as effectively interchangeable

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                  • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                    Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                    Yeah. Me neither.

                    This is a toot about operating systems.

                    lizette603_23@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #46

                    @ptoothfish I'm sorry. I HATE that with a white hot hate.

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                    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                      Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                      Yeah. Me neither.

                      This is a toot about operating systems.

                      dfx4509b@friendica.worldD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #47

                      @ptoothfish At least that ten-year-old camera very much is still fully functional and can still take good pics, particularly if it's a decent SLR.

                      For example, the Canon EOS 5D II and Sony a900 are nearly 20-year-old SLRs and they're still very much respectable cameras by modern standards, at 21MP and 24.6MP respectively, and being full-frame on top of that.

                      Both are old enough to still use basic CF cards though, so if you're still rocking an SLR that old, you'll both need to source some CF cards and a way to read them.

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                      • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                        Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                        Yeah. Me neither.

                        This is a toot about operating systems.

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                        #48

                        @ptoothfish 90% of my tech troubleshooting is old people who get confused because the latest crapware phone update shuffled everything around again

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                        • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                          Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                          Yeah. Me neither.

                          This is a toot about operating systems.

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                          #49

                          @ptoothfish

                          Not gonna lie, I did at one point wonder what it'd be like to drive a car with an aircraft-style throttle.

                          My curiosity was satisfied when I played #EliteDangerous with a throttle-and-stick setup. Ground vehicles in the game work exactly as I had envisioned.

                          It was okay, but only if the throttle controls torque. If the throttle controls speed (i.e. computer controls torque) then you'll lurch a lot and probably bump into stuff. (The game lets you select either mode.)

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                          • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                            Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                            Yeah. Me neither.

                            This is a toot about operating systems.

                            pifster@mindly.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #50

                            @ptoothfish I hear you loud and clear. But sometimes necessity is the mother of invention. Our developer sadly passed away, and I had to use AI to rewrite our charity's front-end from scratch. It's different, but the same. Sometimes there's a reason for change?

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                            • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                              Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                              Yeah. Me neither.

                              This is a toot about operating systems.

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                              #51

                              @ptoothfish It could be worse. Those buttons and levers could slide around and expand and contract and disappear and reappear while you use them.

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                              • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                Ever driven the same car or used the same camera or power drill for 8-10 years and thought: "I wish all these buttons and levers were suddenly in different places and did different things"?

                                Yeah. Me neither.

                                This is a toot about operating systems.

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                                #52

                                @ptoothfish 😂👍

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                                • pifster@mindly.socialP pifster@mindly.social

                                  @ptoothfish I hear you loud and clear. But sometimes necessity is the mother of invention. Our developer sadly passed away, and I had to use AI to rewrite our charity's front-end from scratch. It's different, but the same. Sometimes there's a reason for change?

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                                  #53

                                  @pifster @ptoothfish So now you have no idea how it works and no basis for thinking it does what you want, and you're oddly okay with that.

                                  Cool, carry on.

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                                  • cascheranno@hachyderm.ioC cascheranno@hachyderm.io

                                    @ptoothfish 💯 - if we did cars like tech does software, folks would have given ‘em up and gone back to walking.

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                                    #54

                                    @cascheranno @ptoothfish Das glaube ich nicht. Auch wenn man die Knöpfe da lässt, wo sie sind, bleiben Autos im Privateigentum die mit Abstand teuerste, ineffizienteste, gefährlichste, unsozialste und klimaschädlichste Art der Fortbewegung, unzuverlässiger als jeder Zug oder jedes Flugzeug – und das will was heißen.

                                    Dennoch geben die Menschen ein halbes Vermögen für Autos aus. Das hat offenkundig rein emotionale Gründe. Menschliche Verstandestätigkeit ist jedenfalls nicht zu erkennen.

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                                    • ptoothfish@mastodon.nzP ptoothfish@mastodon.nz

                                      @bri7 a few people have hinted to me that i might mean UI not OS but... it hasn't been too savage 😅

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                                      #55

                                      @ptoothfish @bri7 did you get accused of harassing those UI developers? That send to be the trend these days

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                                      • giffordjames@mas.toG giffordjames@mas.to

                                        @ptoothfish I‘d ask *which* operating system, but, well… ehm…

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                                        #56

                                        @GiffordJames @ptoothfish ok, but I had a similar experience when Ubuntu at some point decided to look like #Windows and I had to change to #Linux Mint Xfce to find a simple UI for a boomer-minded person like me.

                                        It doesn't only happen in the Microsoft world.

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                                        • dpiponi@mathstodon.xyzD dpiponi@mathstodon.xyz

                                          @ptoothfish It could be worse. Those buttons and levers could slide around and expand and contract and disappear and reappear while you use them.

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                                          #57

                                          @dpiponi @ptoothfish "Contract and disappear" - absolutely this.

                                          It would be like the steering wheel disappearing into the dashboard when the car was driving in a straight line.

                                          Scroll bars that fade in and out as the window you are using does not have focus or you are reading the content.

                                          Then applications implementing their own take on scroll bar style.

                                          GTK desktops under Linux used to be a paragon of consistency around Ubuntu 16.04/18.04.

                                          It has been downhill ever since.

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