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Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

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  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

    Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

    #EvanPoll #poll

    ricci@discuss.systemsR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #22

    @evan I'm curious how many people voting on this have young ones (I have a teen, and voted "no but" because they have an incredible social life, largely fueled by keeping in touch with people online, but we have so far restricted them to networks of closed groups, not "open world" social networks, mostly)

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    • kleisli@mastodon.socialK kleisli@mastodon.social

      @renata I think we got used to that circle we didn't have before social media. Even with social media platforms usually there is a hand full of closer friends we meet, call or write regularly. And before social media there was the "work circle" maybe a sports club. But there wasn't that huge fuzzy circle of "facebook friends". @evan

      renata@cosocial.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #23

      @kleisli @evan A lot of people complain about social anxiety and loneliness, and I truly believe that the over reliance on social networks to be basically the only source of connection is the driving force behind that

      You had both the ability to completely disconnect and also had to make an effort to go out and find whatever new things you wanted, things humans have done for centures.

      In 10 years, we lost that. Of course our minds feel weird.

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      • renata@cosocial.caR renata@cosocial.ca

        @kleisli @evan A lot of people complain about social anxiety and loneliness, and I truly believe that the over reliance on social networks to be basically the only source of connection is the driving force behind that

        You had both the ability to completely disconnect and also had to make an effort to go out and find whatever new things you wanted, things humans have done for centures.

        In 10 years, we lost that. Of course our minds feel weird.

        renata@cosocial.caR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #24

        @kleisli @evan Also, performing is exhausting. Social networks train people to perform 24/7.

        You take a picture but it’s not for your personal album, it’s for many likes.

        You post something and keep waiting for someone else to reply, or worried about others might think.

        An entire generation grew up not knowing what is having a private thought

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        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

          Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

          #EvanPoll #poll

          paul@social.lightlyseared.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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          #25

          @evan Not inherently, but as soon as someone decides to introduce an algorithm to increase engagement they become unhealthy for everyone.

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

            #EvanPoll #poll

            teezeh@ieji.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #26

            @evan Yes, if you mean "social" networks with feeds populated by intransparent algorithms.

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

              #EvanPoll #poll

              spraoi@tooting.chS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #27

              @evan

              Yes, but pretty much everything is unhealthy for minors, so there you go.

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                #EvanPoll #poll

                dermoth@jasette.facil.servicesD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @evan No, the GAFAM are unhealthy for minors.

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                  #EvanPoll #poll

                  the_moep@mastodon.deT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #29

                  @evan No, not in general, but the way most current profit-oriented, algorithmic networks work are unhealthy.

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                    #EvanPoll #poll

                    brecht@brecht.pamphlets.meB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #30

                    @evan@cosocial.ca No, but targeted advertising is, so in practice most are.

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                      #EvanPoll #poll

                      climbertobby@chaos.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #31

                      @evan Not social networks per se, but the purposefully addictive design that tries to keep people on platforms and show them ads and the lack of reporting and moderation are issues that affect everyone but minors disproportionally

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                        #EvanPoll #poll

                        stinerman@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #32

                        @evan depends on the social network, but not inherently. So I went with "no, but."

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          @malte isn't this a social network?

                          malte@radikal.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #33

                          @evan It is. I think you know that too, so I wonder how come you ask.

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                          • malte@radikal.socialM malte@radikal.social

                            @evan It is. I think you know that too, so I wonder how come you ask.

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                            #34

                            @malte because you said that you're on the Fediverse because social networks are unhealthy for kids and adults. For me, that means either that you don't think the Fediverse is a social network, or that you think it's ok or necessary to do something unhealthy.

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                            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                              @malte because you said that you're on the Fediverse because social networks are unhealthy for kids and adults. For me, that means either that you don't think the Fediverse is a social network, or that you think it's ok or necessary to do something unhealthy.

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                              #35

                              @evan What I meant to say is that I think the way social networks work at the moment are overall unhealthy for us. The reason I'm here is that I see this as the most likely place to improve the situation.

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                              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                                #EvanPoll #poll

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                                #36

                                @evan It is not that social networks exist, or that they are social that makes them unhealthy, it's algorithmic manipulation by billionaires.

                                I have just had the unfortunately experience these past few days of what happens when Facebook randomly decides to put my political posts in front of the eyeballs of angry white men.

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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                                  #EvanPoll #poll

                                  alpinefolk@sunbeam.cityA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #37

                                  @evan I answered Yes, but. I think rather than social networks in their entirety it is algorithms designed to encourage addiction and amplifying harmful content that are most unhealthy (for everyone not just minors).

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                                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                    Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                                    #EvanPoll #poll

                                    rio@kawane.misskey.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #38

                                    The only reason why I am here typing is because there were people who liked my tweets at Twitter.

                                    If I didn't have SNS, I would have unalived myself at 10.

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                                    • rio@kawane.misskey.onlineR rio@kawane.misskey.online

                                      The only reason why I am here typing is because there were people who liked my tweets at Twitter.

                                      If I didn't have SNS, I would have unalived myself at 10.

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                                      #39

                                      @rio thanks for being here. 🙏🏼

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                                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                        Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                                        #EvanPoll #poll

                                        flux@wandering.shopF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #40

                                        @evan I mean, they are unhealthy for everyone.

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                                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                          Are social networks unhealthy for minors?

                                          #EvanPoll #poll

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                                          #41

                                          @evan No, but the ones from big techs or with addiction-inducing algorithms are

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