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  3. I have a very simple solution to the "data broker problem": simply outlaw them.

I have a very simple solution to the "data broker problem": simply outlaw them.

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  • wollman@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I have a very simple solution to the "data broker problem": simply outlaw them. There is no reason a free society should tolerate their existence.

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    • wollman@mastodon.socialW wollman@mastodon.social

      I have a very simple solution to the "data broker problem": simply outlaw them. There is no reason a free society should tolerate their existence.

      gurre@mastodon.nuG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @wollman
      Yes!
      This has become a core part of my political views.
      Cookies in order to tell subscribers from visitors to know who can see the paid content? Sure, makes sense.
      Cookies from Our 785 Partners With Legitimate Interest? Nope.
      And that's just the bit people get to see directly.

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      • wollman@mastodon.socialW wollman@mastodon.social

        I have a very simple solution to the "data broker problem": simply outlaw them. There is no reason a free society should tolerate their existence.

        mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @wollman

        💯 Just have to reprise this old nugget...

        https://mastodon.online/@mastodonmigration/111048852283194351

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        • gurre@mastodon.nuG gurre@mastodon.nu

          @wollman
          Yes!
          This has become a core part of my political views.
          Cookies in order to tell subscribers from visitors to know who can see the paid content? Sure, makes sense.
          Cookies from Our 785 Partners With Legitimate Interest? Nope.
          And that's just the bit people get to see directly.

          mossman@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @Gurre @wollman and can someone please explain what the hell "legitimate interest" actually means?

          I can guarantee I am not interested, nor is it in my interest. So in what universe is it "legitimate"?!?

          Sorry... this bollocks nonsense term invented to sound like it somehow excuses their malicious behaviour has always annoyed the hell out of me.

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          • mossman@social.vivaldi.netM mossman@social.vivaldi.net

            @Gurre @wollman and can someone please explain what the hell "legitimate interest" actually means?

            I can guarantee I am not interested, nor is it in my interest. So in what universe is it "legitimate"?!?

            Sorry... this bollocks nonsense term invented to sound like it somehow excuses their malicious behaviour has always annoyed the hell out of me.

            mossman@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @Gurre @wollman follow up to self: I expect the European laws which sought to limit data collection cookies in the first place permitted the use of cookies containing data in the user's "legitimate interest" - now the use of that specific term has been cynically twisted into a get-out clause to maliciously circumvent those very same laws. It's legal gaslighting.

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            • mossman@social.vivaldi.netM mossman@social.vivaldi.net

              @Gurre @wollman follow up to self: I expect the European laws which sought to limit data collection cookies in the first place permitted the use of cookies containing data in the user's "legitimate interest" - now the use of that specific term has been cynically twisted into a get-out clause to maliciously circumvent those very same laws. It's legal gaslighting.

              freundtech@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @mossman @Gurre @wollman Pretty much. The wording is from Article 6(1)(f) of the GDPR:

              "1. Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
              [...]
              (f) processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party, except where such interests are overridden by the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject [...]"

              Data brokers are basically claiming they have a [1/2]

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                @mossman @Gurre @wollman Pretty much. The wording is from Article 6(1)(f) of the GDPR:

                "1. Processing shall be lawful only if and to the extent that at least one of the following applies:
                [...]
                (f) processing is necessary for the purposes of the legitimate interests pursued by the controller or by a third party, except where such interests are overridden by the interests or fundamental rights and freedoms of the data subject [...]"

                Data brokers are basically claiming they have a [1/2]

                freundtech@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mossman @Gurre @wollman legitimate interest to make money, so they can have your data. The cookie popups that default to allow for legitimate interest usually have an "object" option, which they claim is enough to satisfy the second part of the sentence, where their interests can be overridden by the interests of the subject. [2/2]

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                • freundtech@chaos.socialF freundtech@chaos.social

                  @mossman @Gurre @wollman legitimate interest to make money, so they can have your data. The cookie popups that default to allow for legitimate interest usually have an "object" option, which they claim is enough to satisfy the second part of the sentence, where their interests can be overridden by the interests of the subject. [2/2]

                  artharg@mastodon.nlA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @freundTech @mossman @Gurre @wollman So if the aggregation of data for the sole purpose of selling information obtained from such aggregated data were to be prohibited by law, then the activities of data brokers would no longer be legitimate interests. But you’d need to put some hefty fines and/or prison sentences on disregarding the prohibition.

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