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  3. The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

    Butt Fang.

    I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

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    #10

    @sundogplanets I'm taking notes...

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    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

      @sundogplanets

      biologists are no fun

      there is the term "cloacal respiration"

      when they could have called it "butt breathing"

      (yes, this is a real thing, like in turtles)

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      #11

      @benroyce @sundogplanets The Germans do this better: they just make compound words using their own words instead of borrowing Greek or Latin. It is less pompous. But a thousand years after the Norman Conquest we are still embarrassed about basic Anglo-Saxon words, so respectable people use French, Latin, or Greek words.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

        Butt Fang.

        I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

        ajn142@infosec.exchangeA This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #12

        @sundogplanets i figured it was a thagomizer

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

          Butt Fang.

          I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

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          #13

          @sundogplanets wow what an immaculate creature

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          • not2b@sfba.socialN not2b@sfba.social

            @benroyce @sundogplanets The Germans do this better: they just make compound words using their own words instead of borrowing Greek or Latin. It is less pompous. But a thousand years after the Norman Conquest we are still embarrassed about basic Anglo-Saxon words, so respectable people use French, Latin, or Greek words.

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            #14

            @not2b @sundogplanets

            🤭

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

              Butt Fang.

              I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

              claytribune@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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              claytribune@mastodon.social
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              #15

              Biologists, take note. The term "Butt Fang" belongs in every scientific journal, immediately. Thank the niece and nephew for this gift to language.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

                Butt Fang.

                I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #16

                @sundogplanets

                Absolutely. And spotted wing drosophila are sawbutt flies

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @sundogplanets

                  biologists are no fun

                  there is the term "cloacal respiration"

                  when they could have called it "butt breathing"

                  (yes, this is a real thing, like in turtles)

                  tomhead@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #17

                  @benroyce @sundogplanets

                  (schwoop!)

                  "Huh? What was that?"

                  "That was me, sorry. I'm a butt breather."

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @not2b @sundogplanets

                    🤭

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                    #18

                    @benroyce

                    When my Duolingo German introduced me to krank for sick, I was more than bemused.
                    So many great words. I have appreciated being the recipient of years of downloading Germanic language into "English"

                    @not2b @sundogplanets

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

                      Butt Fang.

                      I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #19

                      @sundogplanets Look, the thagomizer was named by a newspaper cartoonist, I feel like the butt fang can be named by your niblings.

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                      • tomhead@mastodon.socialT tomhead@mastodon.social

                        @benroyce @sundogplanets

                        (schwoop!)

                        "Huh? What was that?"

                        "That was me, sorry. I'm a butt breather."

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                        #20

                        @tomhead @sundogplanets

                        it might be real someday

                        in medical scenarios

                        and not with air but with oxygen carrying liquids like perfluorocarbons. like with preterm babies with underdeveloped lungs

                        the colon is a membrane. CO2 and O2 can diffuse across it

                        *not* efficient

                        but potentially life saving if your lungs are fucked up

                        If you ask how i know scientists got interested in this during covid when so many lost lung capacity and ECMO machines were in short supply

                        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666634021001549

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                        • intothewestaway@mastodonapp.ukI intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk

                          @benroyce

                          When my Duolingo German introduced me to krank for sick, I was more than bemused.
                          So many great words. I have appreciated being the recipient of years of downloading Germanic language into "English"

                          @not2b @sundogplanets

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                          #21

                          @benroyce

                          Also the "be" in "bemused", is a germanic artifact. English words with the be in front are intensifiers or reflexive. To become, to bequest, to bemoan.

                          @not2b @sundogplanets

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                          • intothewestaway@mastodonapp.ukI intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk

                            @benroyce

                            Also the "be" in "bemused", is a germanic artifact. English words with the be in front are intensifiers or reflexive. To become, to bequest, to bemoan.

                            @not2b @sundogplanets

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                            #22

                            @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                            i am bemused to learn it!

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                              i am bemused to learn it!

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                              #23

                              @benroyce

                              Danke for the response (thank you)

                              Bedanke for the response (I thank you)

                              English is so frick'n German. !

                              @not2b @sundogplanets

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                              • intothewestaway@mastodonapp.ukI intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk

                                @benroyce

                                Danke for the response (thank you)

                                Bedanke for the response (I thank you)

                                English is so frick'n German. !

                                @not2b @sundogplanets

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                                #24

                                @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                language evolution is fascinating

                                a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                                no

                                the hustlers came first

                                the fish was named after the hustlers

                                we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                                but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                                and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                  @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                  language evolution is fascinating

                                  a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                                  no

                                  the hustlers came first

                                  the fish was named after the hustlers

                                  we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                                  but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                                  and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                                  #25

                                  @benroyce @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                  Cardinals (the birds) are named after cardinals (the Catholic officials.) because of the males' color matching the robes.

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                                  • cptbutton@dice.campC cptbutton@dice.camp

                                    @benroyce @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                    Cardinals (the birds) are named after cardinals (the Catholic officials.) because of the males' color matching the robes.

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                                    #26

                                    @cptbutton @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                    holy birds! 🤭

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                      language evolution is fascinating

                                      a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                                      no

                                      the hustlers came first

                                      the fish was named after the hustlers

                                      we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                                      but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                                      and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                                      #27

                                      @benroyce

                                      I am addicted to language podcasts, etc.
                                      John McWhorter is great. (Great courses)
                                      Rob Watts and Jess Zefarris have a great one - words unravelled (any platform for pods) Paired with writing (vs language) it blows my mind how we take for granted language.

                                      @not2b @sundogplanets

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                        language evolution is fascinating

                                        a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                                        no

                                        the hustlers came first

                                        the fish was named after the hustlers

                                        we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                                        but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                                        and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                                        #28

                                        @benroyce
                                        Isn't cardshark (and perhaps poolshark?) an evolution from "sharp" though?

                                        @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

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                                        • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                                          @benroyce
                                          Isn't cardshark (and perhaps poolshark?) an evolution from "sharp" though?

                                          @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

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                                          #29

                                          @xinit @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                          i have no idea

                                          i looked it up

                                          verdict: it's complicated

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_sharp#Etymology_and_usage

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