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  3. The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

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  • not2b@sfba.socialN not2b@sfba.social

    @benroyce @sundogplanets The Germans do this better: they just make compound words using their own words instead of borrowing Greek or Latin. It is less pompous. But a thousand years after the Norman Conquest we are still embarrassed about basic Anglo-Saxon words, so respectable people use French, Latin, or Greek words.

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    #14

    @not2b @sundogplanets

    🤭

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

      Butt Fang.

      I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

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      #15

      Biologists, take note. The term "Butt Fang" belongs in every scientific journal, immediately. Thank the niece and nephew for this gift to language.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

        Butt Fang.

        I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

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        #16

        @sundogplanets

        Absolutely. And spotted wing drosophila are sawbutt flies

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @sundogplanets

          biologists are no fun

          there is the term "cloacal respiration"

          when they could have called it "butt breathing"

          (yes, this is a real thing, like in turtles)

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          #17

          @benroyce @sundogplanets

          (schwoop!)

          "Huh? What was that?"

          "That was me, sorry. I'm a butt breather."

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          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

            @not2b @sundogplanets

            🤭

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            #18

            @benroyce

            When my Duolingo German introduced me to krank for sick, I was more than bemused.
            So many great words. I have appreciated being the recipient of years of downloading Germanic language into "English"

            @not2b @sundogplanets

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              The world needs to know that my niece and nephew decided that the little horn on the back-end of a hornworm (like a tomato worm, or in this case an introduced leafy spurge hawk moth caterpillar) is called a...

              Butt Fang.

              I cannot convey how much I love this. Biologists: we need this terminology in the literature.

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              #19

              @sundogplanets Look, the thagomizer was named by a newspaper cartoonist, I feel like the butt fang can be named by your niblings.

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              • tomhead@mastodon.socialT tomhead@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @sundogplanets

                (schwoop!)

                "Huh? What was that?"

                "That was me, sorry. I'm a butt breather."

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                #20

                @tomhead @sundogplanets

                it might be real someday

                in medical scenarios

                and not with air but with oxygen carrying liquids like perfluorocarbons. like with preterm babies with underdeveloped lungs

                the colon is a membrane. CO2 and O2 can diffuse across it

                *not* efficient

                but potentially life saving if your lungs are fucked up

                If you ask how i know scientists got interested in this during covid when so many lost lung capacity and ECMO machines were in short supply

                https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666634021001549

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                • intothewestaway@mastodonapp.ukI intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk

                  @benroyce

                  When my Duolingo German introduced me to krank for sick, I was more than bemused.
                  So many great words. I have appreciated being the recipient of years of downloading Germanic language into "English"

                  @not2b @sundogplanets

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                  #21

                  @benroyce

                  Also the "be" in "bemused", is a germanic artifact. English words with the be in front are intensifiers or reflexive. To become, to bequest, to bemoan.

                  @not2b @sundogplanets

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                  • intothewestaway@mastodonapp.ukI intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk

                    @benroyce

                    Also the "be" in "bemused", is a germanic artifact. English words with the be in front are intensifiers or reflexive. To become, to bequest, to bemoan.

                    @not2b @sundogplanets

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                    #22

                    @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                    i am bemused to learn it!

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                      i am bemused to learn it!

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                      #23

                      @benroyce

                      Danke for the response (thank you)

                      Bedanke for the response (I thank you)

                      English is so frick'n German. !

                      @not2b @sundogplanets

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                      • intothewestaway@mastodonapp.ukI intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk

                        @benroyce

                        Danke for the response (thank you)

                        Bedanke for the response (I thank you)

                        English is so frick'n German. !

                        @not2b @sundogplanets

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                        #24

                        @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                        language evolution is fascinating

                        a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                        no

                        the hustlers came first

                        the fish was named after the hustlers

                        we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                        but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                        and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                          @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                          language evolution is fascinating

                          a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                          no

                          the hustlers came first

                          the fish was named after the hustlers

                          we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                          but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                          and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                          #25

                          @benroyce @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                          Cardinals (the birds) are named after cardinals (the Catholic officials.) because of the males' color matching the robes.

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                            @benroyce @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                            Cardinals (the birds) are named after cardinals (the Catholic officials.) because of the males' color matching the robes.

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                            #26

                            @cptbutton @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                            holy birds! 🤭

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                              language evolution is fascinating

                              a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                              no

                              the hustlers came first

                              the fish was named after the hustlers

                              we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                              but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                              and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                              #27

                              @benroyce

                              I am addicted to language podcasts, etc.
                              John McWhorter is great. (Great courses)
                              Rob Watts and Jess Zefarris have a great one - words unravelled (any platform for pods) Paired with writing (vs language) it blows my mind how we take for granted language.

                              @not2b @sundogplanets

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                language evolution is fascinating

                                a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                                no

                                the hustlers came first

                                the fish was named after the hustlers

                                we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                                but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                                and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                                #28

                                @benroyce
                                Isn't cardshark (and perhaps poolshark?) an evolution from "sharp" though?

                                @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

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                                • xinit@mastodon.coffeeX xinit@mastodon.coffee

                                  @benroyce
                                  Isn't cardshark (and perhaps poolshark?) an evolution from "sharp" though?

                                  @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

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                                  #29

                                  @xinit @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                  i have no idea

                                  i looked it up

                                  verdict: it's complicated

                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_sharp#Etymology_and_usage

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                                  • farah@beige.partyF farah@beige.party

                                    @sundogplanets I aspire to have a butt fang too

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                                    #30

                                    @farah @sundogplanets then you would like this Far Side https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/65/Thagomizer.png?utm_source=en.wikipedia.org&utm_campaign=parser&utm_content=thumbnail_unscaled

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                                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                      @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                      language evolution is fascinating

                                      a favorite anecdote is we usually think of the term "shark" in "poolshark" "cardshark" etc as derived from the fish

                                      no

                                      the hustlers came first

                                      the fish was named after the hustlers

                                      we used to call them dogfish or tiburon as a loanword from spanish

                                      but then we congealed around the concept that these fish were predators, like con men and scoundrels

                                      and "shark" in english is from german schurke or dutch schurk: villain

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                                      #31

                                      @benroyce @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                      Then there's "loan shark." Back in 2008, I was part of the successful campaign to cap payday lending interest at 20% or drive them from the city. They all bailed after the cap passed, now they are check cashing jounts. Car title lenders moved into the vacuum of course, there's alway another predator.

                                      I made the Jaws-themed audio report below about the incident where DC's own Reverend Hagler threatened the manager of ACE Cash Express with a belt-whipping over those 391% APR loans they were writing:

                                      I think we do need to rename the fish, even a Great White is only hunting to eat and cannot hold a candle to the vicious predators among our own species.

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                                      • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                        @benroyce @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                        Then there's "loan shark." Back in 2008, I was part of the successful campaign to cap payday lending interest at 20% or drive them from the city. They all bailed after the cap passed, now they are check cashing jounts. Car title lenders moved into the vacuum of course, there's alway another predator.

                                        I made the Jaws-themed audio report below about the incident where DC's own Reverend Hagler threatened the manager of ACE Cash Express with a belt-whipping over those 391% APR loans they were writing:

                                        I think we do need to rename the fish, even a Great White is only hunting to eat and cannot hold a candle to the vicious predators among our own species.

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                                        #32

                                        @LukefromDC @intothewestaway @not2b @sundogplanets

                                        👏 👏 👏

                                        excellent play

                                        on fighting loansharks and the need to reverse the smear on the fish

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                                        • intothewestaway@mastodonapp.ukI intothewestaway@mastodonapp.uk

                                          @benroyce

                                          Also the "be" in "bemused", is a germanic artifact. English words with the be in front are intensifiers or reflexive. To become, to bequest, to bemoan.

                                          @not2b @sundogplanets

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                                          #33

                                          @intothewestaway @benroyce @not2b @sundogplanets …behead 😁

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