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  3. New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

    blenderdumbass@mastodon.onlineB This user is from outside of this forum
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    blenderdumbass@mastodon.online
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    #30

    @davidrevoy This is news-worthy.

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    • josch@floss.socialJ josch@floss.social

      @davidrevoy I'm 100% with you on this. All power to you! I hope things will get better for you.

      For my own software I had a clause "You are not allowed to use this software to train your LLM" until Guillem Jover (dpkg) pointed out that this would make my software non-free in the eyes of the Debian Free Software Guidelines and other definitions of free software (use for any endeavor).

      It's a pity that the principles on which free software was founded decades ago can now be used against it.

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      #31

      @josch I've had a non free license on my web site for years, and I don't think it even slows down big-LLM, even if it gives me some small satisfaction.

      Edit: this just CC-*-NC, which won't help the OP. @davidrevoy

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      • efi@chitter.xyzE efi@chitter.xyz

        @davidrevoy HELLING FUK THE ARM!!

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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #32
        @efi @davidrevoy jfc i totally missed that (between the chubbier everything and the way her expression is totally changed and now it's like she's just waiting for you to throw a peanut in her mouth)
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        • ophis@brain.worm.pinkO ophis@brain.worm.pink
          @efi @davidrevoy jfc i totally missed that (between the chubbier everything and the way her expression is totally changed and now it's like she's just waiting for you to throw a peanut in her mouth)
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          #33
          @efi @davidrevoy (and the three knees)
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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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            #34

            @davidrevoy
            I read yesterday that some scientists/researchers want to sue #OpenAI for using #data from their collective work to feed their #AI machine to crack a long-known conundrum.

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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              @davidrevoy Glad you are doing something, a little uncertain what the license is exactly. But also, I kind of suspect, all of this stuff is a violation of even CC BY if these licenses were actually enforced and the other FOSS orgs who might have influenced things hadn't dropped the ball; there's simply no way to preserve the "attribution soup" of these works...

              ryunoki@layer8.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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              #35

              @cwebber @davidrevoy

              Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
              https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

              These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

              I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

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              • ryunoki@layer8.spaceR ryunoki@layer8.space

                @cwebber @davidrevoy

                Meanwhile at Creative Commons:
                https://github.com/creativecommons/cc-signals/discussions

                These used to be issues. Also the protest fell on deaf ears.

                I'm sorry but CC won't be on your side here 😿

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                #36

                @RyunoKi @davidrevoy CC the institution, maybe not. But the legalcode still requires attribution.

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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                  yuki2501@masto.hackers.town
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #37

                  @davidrevoy Honestly, we need a CC-NOAI license.

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                    annabee92@mastodon.social
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                    #38

                    @davidrevoy I feel your pain. The original sketch is so wonderful. I love how you drew the cat. I feel really uncomfortable with the way AI generates pictures. I like human-y things.

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                    • ophis@brain.worm.pinkO ophis@brain.worm.pink
                      @efi @davidrevoy (and the three knees)
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                      #39

                      @ophis @davidrevoy or she's trans now

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        @RyunoKi @davidrevoy CC the institution, maybe not. But the legalcode still requires attribution.

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                        #40

                        @cwebber @davidrevoy True.

                        But unless it produces art verbatim (whatever that means?) it's going to be tough to win in court, I guess.

                        I mean, you have large newspapers in US taking OpenAI to court. Just to have DOJ side with the latter.

                        Expressing the wish to not be vacuumed up is better than nothing.

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                          #41

                          @davidrevoy I suppose I shoudn't be surprised that someone sent you AI-generated episodes for the Avian Intelligence series, but damn...they really missed the point, didn't they?

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                          • efi@chitter.xyzE efi@chitter.xyz

                            @ophis @davidrevoy or she's trans now

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                            #42
                            @efi @davidrevoy or he is (given what hrt does i'm going to assume this is one hell of a phalloplasty)
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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                              #43

                              @davidrevoy Your situation seems terrifying. I can't imagine the feeling of receiving such things like as it was 'normal'.

                              Seeing artists suffering from this makes me boil in anger. Hope your adjustements will have at least minimum effects. Sending support your way for dealing wih all this bs.

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                #44

                                @davidrevoy
                                As someone who's trying to build a new music platform centered around CC licenses and local communities, I thank you for writing the article. I 100% concur.

                                My research shows that unfortunately, it's difficult for any license at all to restrict AI training on content, because that's a copyright issue, not a licensing one. I'm hoping that this will change. I want to protect local and independent musicians from AI theft, but I want them to share w/CC and be supported, too. It's hard.

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                  voxel@infosec.space
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                                  #45

                                  @davidrevoy this will maybe will you: https://github.com/ai-robots-txt/ai.robots.txt

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                    #46

                                    @davidrevoy Are you saying that replacing a broken plate with a loaf of bread(?) isn't enough to make the AI slop original?

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                      #47

                                      @davidrevoy Have you looked into using Nightshade or Glaze or something in that direction to poison AI derivation attempts?

                                      https://nightshade.cs.uchicago.edu/whatis.html

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                                      • n1xnx@tilde.zoneN n1xnx@tilde.zone

                                        @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy
                                        Since I'm not actually deranged (externally verified), the very notion of feeding someone else's work into an Ai to "improve" or "expand" it brings on a powerful retch reflex.

                                        Seems about as acceptable as raping a sheep on the town square at midday.

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                                        #48

                                        @n1xnx @f4grx @h5e @davidrevoy if you live in the UK it's fine if you do that with pigs, so long you are part of the political class

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                                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                                          cy@fedicy.us.to
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                                          #49
                                          crying → singing like Gloria Estaban
                                          ket → Catbus-bus from the popular hit movie Miyazaki's My Neighbor Totoro
                                          absolutely fascinating hat crown → buckle
                                          gee what's the problem everything looks hunky dory to me
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