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  3. New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."→ https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
    davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD This user is from outside of this forum
    davidrevoy@framapiaf.org
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #1

    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

    csolisr@hub.azkware.netC f4grx@chaos.socialF farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF sbourne@mastodon.socialS efi@chitter.xyzE 62 Replies Last reply
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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

      csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
      csolisr@hub.azkware.netC This user is from outside of this forum
      csolisr@hub.azkware.net
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2
      Do you plan to make the artwork closed-source at some point (that is, to forbid derivatives altogether, in order to accommodate for the AI derivation restriction)?
      jfml@mastodon.artJ 1 Reply Last reply
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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

        f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
        f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
        f4grx@chaos.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #3

        @davidrevoy oh my god, this is HIDEOUS. it totally destroyed your style to replace it with this characteristic miyazaki-ish slop style.

        f4grx@chaos.socialF 1 Reply Last reply
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        • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

          @davidrevoy oh my god, this is HIDEOUS. it totally destroyed your style to replace it with this characteristic miyazaki-ish slop style.

          f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
          f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
          f4grx@chaos.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @davidrevoy omg omg omg I cant stop comparing and finding violations omg not the same drawing this is horrific aaaaaa must clean eyes

          f4grx@chaos.socialF h5e@tech.lgbtH bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB 3 Replies Last reply
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          • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

            @davidrevoy omg omg omg I cant stop comparing and finding violations omg not the same drawing this is horrific aaaaaa must clean eyes

            f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
            f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
            f4grx@chaos.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @davidrevoy EVEN THE FLOOR TILES ARE WRONG aaaaa i must calm down

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

              farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
              farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
              farbenstau@infosec.exchange
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @davidrevoy

              Please have a proper lawyer with copyright/licensing experience look at your idea of how to license your comics in the future.

              I am pretty sure you cannot legally use a "CC-something" with an additional "no AI" clause, because then the folks behind the CC licensing might send you a cease and desist letter, since they don't approve of a CC-but-no-AI-use license just yet.

              You will probably have to come up with an entire license text of your own, and call it something like the David-Revoy-no-AI-License.

              f4grx@chaos.socialF linebyline@mastoart.socialL davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD cy@fedicy.us.toC 4 Replies Last reply
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              • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                @davidrevoy omg omg omg I cant stop comparing and finding violations omg not the same drawing this is horrific aaaaaa must clean eyes

                h5e@tech.lgbtH This user is from outside of this forum
                h5e@tech.lgbtH This user is from outside of this forum
                h5e@tech.lgbt
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #7

                @f4grx @davidrevoy why do people even *do* that??

                “hey artist i like your work anyway i used a machine to make it better maybe you’ll like it” seems like a very deranged thing to do and yet

                f4grx@chaos.socialF bredroll@mas.toB richrockster@mastodon.socialR 3 Replies Last reply
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                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                  New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                  → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                  sbourne@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                  sbourne@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
                  sbourne@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @davidrevoy That's awful. They made it look like she's singing, all the grief washed away.

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                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                    New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                    efi@chitter.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
                    efi@chitter.xyzE This user is from outside of this forum
                    efi@chitter.xyz
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #9

                    @davidrevoy HELLING FUK THE ARM!!

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                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                      New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

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                      avincentinspace@furry.engineer
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                      #10

                      @davidrevoy I wholeheartedly agree with your mission and wish you the very best of luck enforcing that license.

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                      • h5e@tech.lgbtH h5e@tech.lgbt

                        @f4grx @davidrevoy why do people even *do* that??

                        “hey artist i like your work anyway i used a machine to make it better maybe you’ll like it” seems like a very deranged thing to do and yet

                        f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                        f4grx@chaos.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #11

                        @h5e @davidrevoy I agree, it's deranged.

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                        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                          giacomo@snac.tesio.itG This user is from outside of this forum
                          giacomo@snac.tesio.itG This user is from outside of this forum
                          giacomo@snac.tesio.it
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12
                          @davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                          Consider to also add an explicit "training fee". Something like: you can use any of my images for generative AI training for 10€ each pixel.
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                          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                            New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                            cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
                            cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
                            cwebber@social.coop
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @davidrevoy Glad you are doing something, a little uncertain what the license is exactly. But also, I kind of suspect, all of this stuff is a violation of even CC BY if these licenses were actually enforced and the other FOSS orgs who might have influenced things hadn't dropped the ball; there's simply no way to preserve the "attribution soup" of these works...

                            dajb@social.coopD cwebber@social.coopC ryunoki@layer8.spaceR 3 Replies Last reply
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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                              mhunt@socel.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              mhunt@socel.net
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                              #14

                              @davidrevoy laws are too slow updating to the use of A.I. I'm sorry you have to go trough this.

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                              • farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF farbenstau@infosec.exchange

                                @davidrevoy

                                Please have a proper lawyer with copyright/licensing experience look at your idea of how to license your comics in the future.

                                I am pretty sure you cannot legally use a "CC-something" with an additional "no AI" clause, because then the folks behind the CC licensing might send you a cease and desist letter, since they don't approve of a CC-but-no-AI-use license just yet.

                                You will probably have to come up with an entire license text of your own, and call it something like the David-Revoy-no-AI-License.

                                f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                                f4grx@chaos.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
                                f4grx@chaos.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #15

                                @farbenstau @davidrevoy you can add exceptions to licenses. It renders them incompatible but thats the exact goal.

                                farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF scriptfanix@maly.ioS 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                  @davidrevoy Glad you are doing something, a little uncertain what the license is exactly. But also, I kind of suspect, all of this stuff is a violation of even CC BY if these licenses were actually enforced and the other FOSS orgs who might have influenced things hadn't dropped the ball; there's simply no way to preserve the "attribution soup" of these works...

                                  dajb@social.coopD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  dajb@social.coop
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @cwebber @davidrevoy Isn't this what CC BY-ND is for? 🤔

                                  poleguy@mastodon.socialP robotistry@fediscience.orgR 2 Replies Last reply
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                                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                    @davidrevoy Glad you are doing something, a little uncertain what the license is exactly. But also, I kind of suspect, all of this stuff is a violation of even CC BY if these licenses were actually enforced and the other FOSS orgs who might have influenced things hadn't dropped the ball; there's simply no way to preserve the "attribution soup" of these works...

                                    cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    cwebber@social.coop
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                                    #17

                                    @davidrevoy Are you doing this *in addition to* CC BY / CC BY-SA btw?

                                    Note that it might be possible: CC BY's legal code says:

                                    > Moral rights, such as the right of integrity, are not licensed under this Public License, nor are publicity, privacy, and/or other similar personality rights; however, to the extent possible, the Licensor waives and/or agrees not to assert any such rights held by the Licensor to the limited extent necessary to allow You to exercise the Licensed Rights, but not otherwise.

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                                    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                      @davidrevoy Are you doing this *in addition to* CC BY / CC BY-SA btw?

                                      Note that it might be possible: CC BY's legal code says:

                                      > Moral rights, such as the right of integrity, are not licensed under this Public License, nor are publicity, privacy, and/or other similar personality rights; however, to the extent possible, the Licensor waives and/or agrees not to assert any such rights held by the Licensor to the limited extent necessary to allow You to exercise the Licensed Rights, but not otherwise.

                                      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      cwebber@social.coop
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                                      #18

                                      @davidrevoy Hm, re-reading, maybe not possible to do in addition to this term. It's been so long since I thought about moral rights clauses.

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        New blog post "License update: AI derivation prohibited on all my art, lore, stories, and comics."
                                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1178/license-update-ai-derivation-prohibited-on-all-my-art-lore-stories-and-comics

                                        discatte@digipres.clubD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @davidrevoy I had someone post aigen derivatives of some old 3d artists I was sharing back in the twitter days. I can only imagine the feeling of seeing that of my own works.

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                                        • f4grx@chaos.socialF f4grx@chaos.social

                                          @farbenstau @davidrevoy you can add exceptions to licenses. It renders them incompatible but thats the exact goal.

                                          farbenstau@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          farbenstau@infosec.exchange
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #20

                                          @f4grx @davidrevoy But you are normally not allowed to call them by the original license name, because the original creator of the license has a right to the name. Just like you cannot commercially sell Mercedes cars with original Mercedes branding still on them when you've swapped out the engines for your custom, non-Mercedes ones.

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