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  3. If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

    that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

    EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

    If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

    archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

    gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG aaron@social.caskey-demaret.seA cynaq@beige.partyC disorderlyf@todon.euD m@blat.atM 20 Replies Last reply
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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

      that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

      EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

      If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

      archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

      gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
      gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
      gourd@indiepocalypse.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #2

      @davidgerard unfortunately their refund policy they're bringing up is "paid in the last 14 days"

      so a lot of people can't get shit

      davidgerard@circumstances.runD estelle4565@masto.nuE 2 Replies Last reply
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      • gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG gourd@indiepocalypse.social

        @davidgerard unfortunately their refund policy they're bringing up is "paid in the last 14 days"

        so a lot of people can't get shit

        davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
        davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @gourd guess we'll just have to take it out of their hide then

        call for a refund anyway. "your official mastodon said to demand a refund if we don't want to give money to Nazis". hit consumer protection. reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive conduct.

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        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

          If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

          that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

          EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

          If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

          archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

          aaron@social.caskey-demaret.seA This user is from outside of this forum
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          aaron@social.caskey-demaret.se
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #4

          @davidgerard @mozilla Screenshoted for when they inevitably take it down...

          davidgerard@circumstances.runD aaron@social.caskey-demaret.seA 2 Replies Last reply
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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

            that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

            EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

            If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

            archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

            cynaq@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
            cynaq@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #5

            @davidgerard @mullvadnet

            “free speech, information and privacy”

            Just not free movement. Apparently that’s a bridge too far for these “freedom” fighters.

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            • aaron@social.caskey-demaret.seA aaron@social.caskey-demaret.se

              @davidgerard @mozilla Screenshoted for when they inevitably take it down...

              davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #6

              @aaron @mozilla

              https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @davidgerard @mozilla Currently looking into alternatives before I pull the trigger. Thankfully, if they don't refund it, the worst they're getting from me is another €5

                Edit for clarification: Card used to pay is an American one, so I don't expect to get anywhere with a chargeback or with a CFPB complaint.

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                  that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                  EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                  If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                  archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                  m@blat.atM This user is from outside of this forum
                  m@blat.atM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #8

                  @davidgerard @mozilla God, the sanctimonious bullshit about fighting for freedom of speech and free expression and welcoming anyone who shares those values is like the worst "oops, we got caught supporting Nazis" greatest hits tape ever.

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                    that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                    EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                    If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                    archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                    K This user is from outside of this forum
                    K This user is from outside of this forum
                    kerplunk@mastodon.scot
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                    #9

                    @davidgerard @mozilla
                    Mullvad is a political company fighting for free speech, free information and privacy,

                    No part of that statement rejects support for nazis. It is just stinky word bending Hogwash.

                    The only part of that statement I believe is
                    Mullvad is a Political company.
                    Away from the crap.

                    and fighting for a free speech and information platform for nazis.

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                      that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                      EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                      If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                      archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                      gourd@indiepocalypse.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #10

                      @davidgerard It's also probably worth pressuring Mozilla over this.

                      My faith in Mozilla is approximately... none... but it could work.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                        that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                        EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                        If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                        archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                        zm@kolektiva.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @davidgerard
                        You can bet your ass it's going to be used to deanonymize people's traffic for the benefit of Nazis. Bank on it

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                        • aaron@social.caskey-demaret.seA aaron@social.caskey-demaret.se

                          @davidgerard @mozilla Screenshoted for when they inevitably take it down...

                          aaron@social.caskey-demaret.seA This user is from outside of this forum
                          aaron@social.caskey-demaret.seA This user is from outside of this forum
                          aaron@social.caskey-demaret.se
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #12

                          @davidgerard @mozilla Well given they're spamming that drivel to anyone who criticises them, or asks for a refund, I guess they think they have a rock solid response here that convinces everyone of how wonderfully enlightened they are.

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                            that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                            EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                            If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                            archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                            jonpsp@mstdn.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            jonpsp@mstdn.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #13

                            @davidgerard

                            > Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy

                            Mullvad claim to delete your payment information quickly, hence the short refund period. They say this is so they don't know who their customers are. So this will be a good test of their data retention policy.

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                              that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                              EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                              If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                              archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                              thomasareed@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              thomasareed@infosec.exchange
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                              #14

                              @davidgerard @mozilla @Viss This is why we can’t have nice things. 😔 Mullvad was the only VPN I knew of with a truly private service. So many other VPNs are absolute garbage that keep data on you and use misleading marketing.

                              So what’s the alternative now?

                              viss@mastodon.socialV vandefiets@social.vivaldi.netV boltx@mastodon.socialB 3 Replies Last reply
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                              • thomasareed@infosec.exchangeT thomasareed@infosec.exchange

                                @davidgerard @mozilla @Viss This is why we can’t have nice things. 😔 Mullvad was the only VPN I knew of with a truly private service. So many other VPNs are absolute garbage that keep data on you and use misleading marketing.

                                So what’s the alternative now?

                                viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                viss@mastodon.social
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                                #15

                                @thomasareed @davidgerard @mozilla i have a hardware firewall in a colo on 10 gig copper, and its my endpoint. ive given a few friends access to it so they can be afforded the same "be on a vpn when you leave the house" setup I have. the alternative is you either build your own vpn infra, or you use a friends.

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                                • thomasareed@infosec.exchangeT thomasareed@infosec.exchange

                                  @davidgerard @mozilla @Viss This is why we can’t have nice things. 😔 Mullvad was the only VPN I knew of with a truly private service. So many other VPNs are absolute garbage that keep data on you and use misleading marketing.

                                  So what’s the alternative now?

                                  vandefiets@social.vivaldi.netV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  vandefiets@social.vivaldi.netV This user is from outside of this forum
                                  vandefiets@social.vivaldi.net
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #16

                                  @thomasareed @davidgerard @mozilla @Viss I was thinking about nym as an alternative, but it seems something new

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                                  • K kerplunk@mastodon.scot

                                    @davidgerard @mozilla
                                    Mullvad is a political company fighting for free speech, free information and privacy,

                                    No part of that statement rejects support for nazis. It is just stinky word bending Hogwash.

                                    The only part of that statement I believe is
                                    Mullvad is a Political company.
                                    Away from the crap.

                                    and fighting for a free speech and information platform for nazis.

                                    ehproque@neopaquita.esE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    ehproque@neopaquita.esE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    ehproque@neopaquita.es
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                                    #17

                                    @Kerplunk yeah Nazis are famously supportive of freedom of expression, it's just logical to defend them if you value freedom of expression! @davidgerard @mozilla

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                                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                      If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                                      that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                                      EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                                      If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                                      archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                                      unsightly3055@universeodon.comU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      unsightly3055@universeodon.com
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                                      #18

                                      @davidgerard @mozilla I would really love it if I could go ONE YEAR without having to change providers because they can't provide a safe/secure product or are paying lip service to their stated goals. Good thing I started putting calendar reminders for when these services expire so I can pivot.

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                                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                        If you don't want your Mullvad fees going to fund neo-Nazis - or @mozilla VPN fees, which is rebranded Mullvad - cancel and get a refund immediately

                                        that's whose "free speech" the official account is talking about here, and that's where your fees go to

                                        EDIT: Mullvad has a 14 day refund policy. But the message below is a direct call to ask for a refund if you don't want to give money to Nazis.

                                        If Mullvad refuse a refund, call your consumer protection agency. And reverse credit card charges on the basis of deceptive refund policy representations. It's not like you ever want to be a Mullvad customer again.

                                        archive copy of Mullvad statement: https://web.archive.org/web/20260627172939/https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/116822244689326681

                                        alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        alice@lgbtqia.space
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                                        #19

                                        @davidgerard well fuck. Pulling the "respecting differences of opinion" card is such a weak-ass move.

                                        Fuck the far right (by whatever name), and fuck all its supporters.

                                        @mozilla

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          @davidgerard well fuck. Pulling the "respecting differences of opinion" card is such a weak-ass move.

                                          Fuck the far right (by whatever name), and fuck all its supporters.

                                          @mozilla

                                          miss_rodent@girlcock.clubM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          miss_rodent@girlcock.club
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                                          #20

                                          @alice @davidgerard 'respect differences of opinion' is great to a point, but, the paradox of tolerance ('nazi bar problem' and similar) has been a known issue since the 1940's (with some ideas in that vein as far back as the start of the 1800s at least) -.- so, weak and also has decades of analysis and argument around it that generally goes unaddressed by those invoking it...

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