Coxon: oh shit don't give away how deep in I am with the rationalistsCoxon: I'm totally not a rationalist, I just hung out with them for a decade because I admire their huge swole brains and how right they are about everythingCoxon: nailed it
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@tante @davidgerard Knows his audience, Real Men etc.?
@RogerBW @davidgerard sure, but why oppose? Eat meat and drink milk but why fight people who don't?
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@davidgerard why is he against "veganism"?
@tante @davidgerard His «intuition» is against it
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@davidgerard @Nickiquote I can’t be the the only person going, “Rationalists? What,like Descartes?”, so, no, not like Descartes.
@aegir @davidgerard @Nickiquote that was real good. So much makes sense now (including their "10% AI will kill us"). Thanks for sharing.
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Coxon: oh shit don't give away how deep in I am with the rationalists
Coxon: I'm totally not a rationalist, I just hung out with them for a decade because I admire their huge swole brains and how right they are about everything
Coxon: nailed itfound by https://bsky.app/profile/cabernet.bsky.social/post/3mvlmmzpkas2v
@davidgerard Speaking of Coxon, I said this yesterday: https://appdot.net/@morrick/117276043729139797
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@RogerBW @davidgerard sure, but why oppose? Eat meat and drink milk but why fight people who don't?
@tante @davidgerard Fascism is all about declaring an Enemy who is Different. I'm sure this is not news to you.
(The practical reason for opposition is "if everyone goes vegan, I won't be able to get meat any more" but I think everyone would agree that that's not a likely thing in the immediate future.)
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@davidgerard his skepticism of polyamory may be more imposed on him than anything.
@CartyBoston the rationalists are not a good advertisement, no
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Coxon: oh shit don't give away how deep in I am with the rationalists
Coxon: I'm totally not a rationalist, I just hung out with them for a decade because I admire their huge swole brains and how right they are about everything
Coxon: nailed itfound by https://bsky.app/profile/cabernet.bsky.social/post/3mvlmmzpkas2v
@davidgerard rationalism is neither a coherent philosophy nor is it rational
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@dzajew @davidgerard terrible new meaning. See Eliezer Yudkowski
@gryphonmyers
Thanks, I hate it. Also, per wiki article about this guy: "His fanfiction novel Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality uses plot elements from J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter series to illustrate topics in science and rationality."
Wtf XD
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@Dangerous_beans rationalists cover the entire spectrum from libertarian to neoreactionary, all race scientist
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@tante @davidgerard His «intuition» is against it
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Coxon: oh shit don't give away how deep in I am with the rationalists
Coxon: I'm totally not a rationalist, I just hung out with them for a decade because I admire their huge swole brains and how right they are about everything
Coxon: nailed itfound by https://bsky.app/profile/cabernet.bsky.social/post/3mvlmmzpkas2v
@davidgerard “I am intuitively opposed to […] consequentialist intuitions” is an amazing self own.
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@davidgerard rationalism is neither a coherent philosophy nor is it rational
@jackielovescompchem32 they don't themselves call it "rationalism", they call it "rationality" and themselves "rationalists", as in The Cool Smart Guys Who Are Right that's our proper name you should address us by
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@simon "i spent ten years in a hotbox with these guys but i didn't inhale"
@davidgerard @simon in fact, I learned how to not breathe at all. Ever.
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@davidgerard why is he against "veganism"?
@tante He doesn't have any "real" arguments. He admits himself its "intuition", but also just a form of ideological signalling to others, pandering to the fascists,... @davidgerard
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Coxon: oh shit don't give away how deep in I am with the rationalists
Coxon: I'm totally not a rationalist, I just hung out with them for a decade because I admire their huge swole brains and how right they are about everything
Coxon: nailed itfound by https://bsky.app/profile/cabernet.bsky.social/post/3mvlmmzpkas2v
@davidgerard every crevice of this guy's navel has been committed to memory.
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@Dangerous_beans rationalists cover the entire spectrum from libertarian to neoreactionary, all race scientist
@davidgerard @Dangerous_beans I actually assume it's because he's distinguishing himself from the "dangerous rationalists" like the Zizians, who are vegan and polyamorous IIRC, and not the "good rationalists" like the fascists who believe that Christian Nationalists in the US are correct about everything practically, they just have the wrong god that they're worshiping
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@davidgerard @Dangerous_beans I actually assume it's because he's distinguishing himself from the "dangerous rationalists" like the Zizians, who are vegan and polyamorous IIRC, and not the "good rationalists" like the fascists who believe that Christian Nationalists in the US are correct about everything practically, they just have the wrong god that they're worshiping
@Jer @Dangerous_beans ah didn't click he meant the zizians
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@NewtonMark @davidgerard "I am intuitively opposed to polyamory, veganism, and consequentialist intuitions."
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Coxon: oh shit don't give away how deep in I am with the rationalists
Coxon: I'm totally not a rationalist, I just hung out with them for a decade because I admire their huge swole brains and how right they are about everything
Coxon: nailed itfound by https://bsky.app/profile/cabernet.bsky.social/post/3mvlmmzpkas2v
@davidgerard can’t imagine why a dweeby 20-something is hanging out with Silicon Valley’s premier weird sex cult. Completely a surprise, who could ever have seen that one coming.
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Coxon: oh shit don't give away how deep in I am with the rationalists
Coxon: I'm totally not a rationalist, I just hung out with them for a decade because I admire their huge swole brains and how right they are about everything
Coxon: nailed itfound by https://bsky.app/profile/cabernet.bsky.social/post/3mvlmmzpkas2v
@davidgerard@circumstances.rununiquely able to be correct about topics removed from daily experience
I wonder if they are uniquely able to be correct about how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.I certainly trust them to be correct about factual questions
Factual questions, like those that are enmeshed with daily experience, which is what we tend to mean when we refer to "facts". Is he really trying to say "I trust them to be correct about questions concerning daily experience because they have specialized minds that are uniquely able to be correct about topics removed from daily experience."
He thinks we're all living in a giant sudoku puzzle, where we can "be correct" or "be incorrect" and we can know the difference and it's all tidy and easy (if you have a uniquely specialized mind). I suppose that sums up rationalists generally.
