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People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

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  • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

    @PallasRiot @chu
    yes, car manufacturers and policymakers have a responsibilty for motorist supremacy, but you can't just buy an SUV and wash your hands: »why aren't the politicians doing anything about the climate?«

    driving is a choice. making that choice means being okay with flattening a certain amount of deer, rabbits, frogs, snakes, foxes, mice and badgers, and making the city streets unsafe for kids as well as grown ups, and polluting air and water with exhaust and microplastics.

    similarly, the US gun lobby has a responsibilty for gun violence, but that doesn't absolve the person who pulls the trigger.

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    @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

    You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

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    • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

      @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

      You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

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      #28

      @PallasRiot @chu
      lol what a motor brained response

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      • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

        @pelle@veganism.social

        people being animals who need to eat food is not the cause of global climate change & your derail is probably unhelpful

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        #29

        @peachfront
        lol, #vegans are not against food.
        you're mixing up #veganism and #breathatarianism.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia

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        • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

          @chu @catflyhigh @jason Of course, bad timing is all

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          #30

          @theory @chu @catflyhigh oh of course. I’m just in Europe at the moment and saw the German news first so the opener felt a little close to current events

          Totally agree on the framing though! “Our country just had over a thousand heat deaths” should be an embarrassment resulting in huge government spending to address the problem. It’s negligent, IMO

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          • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

            People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

            After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

            Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

            Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

            Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

            #climatechange

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            @chu If I die in a heat wave someday y’all have full permission to politicize the hell out of my death.

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            • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

              People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

              After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

              Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

              Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

              Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

              #climatechange

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              #32

              @chu 1) Germany is a country, it's not the whole of Europe. 2) The only country that seems to tolerate mass shootings is the US. Can't speak for Germany, but anytime this happens in Canada, gun regulations tighten to make it more difficult for the next one. Our problem is the @#%$@#%@#%$@ lax gun laws in the US and those guns making it across the border. 😞

              "Germany has very strict gun laws, among the strictest in Europe."

              https://www.dw.com/en/germany-at-least-6-killed-in-shooting-in-stade/a-77754951

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              • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                #climatechange

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                #33

                @chu heat death should be made political, but why american shootings shouldnt? is there some sarcasm i dont get?

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                • lllisha@tech.lgbtL lllisha@tech.lgbt

                  @chu heat death should be made political, but why american shootings shouldnt? is there some sarcasm i dont get?

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                  #34

                  @lllisha

                  I'm saying it should be.

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                  • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                    @chu 1) Germany is a country, it's not the whole of Europe. 2) The only country that seems to tolerate mass shootings is the US. Can't speak for Germany, but anytime this happens in Canada, gun regulations tighten to make it more difficult for the next one. Our problem is the @#%$@#%@#%$@ lax gun laws in the US and those guns making it across the border. 😞

                    "Germany has very strict gun laws, among the strictest in Europe."

                    https://www.dw.com/en/germany-at-least-6-killed-in-shooting-in-stade/a-77754951

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                    @CStamp

                    My post had nothing to do with this shooting. It was posted before it happened. Or at least before I knew of it.

                    I was using the political tactic as an example

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                    • pawcelot@meow.socialP pawcelot@meow.social

                      @chu If I die in a heat wave someday y’all have full permission to politicize the hell out of my death.

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                      #36

                      @pawcelot

                      I hope every death becomes politicized right now. In Chinese, there's a term, 白死. It means to die for nothing. May nobody 白死 and have every death used for good.

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                      • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                        People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                        After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                        Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                        Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                        Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                        #climatechange

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                        #37

                        Just saw that France alone is reporting over 1000 heat deaths.

                        For the sake of everyone, please politicize these. Hold public services, memorials, and at every turn say they would still be alive if not for the lies of fossil fuel companies.

                        If anyone gets interviewed, the first thing out of your mouth should be the words "climate change".

                        "Climate change killed ......"
                        "Exxon Mobil lied and we died"

                        https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/france-deaths-heat-wave-9.7251959

                        #ClimateChange
                        #ClimateCrisis

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