Skip to content
  • Hjem
  • Seneste
  • Etiketter
  • Populære
  • Verden
  • Bruger
  • Grupper
Temaer
  • Light
  • Brite
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Kollaps
FARVEL BIG TECH
  1. Forside
  2. Ikke-kategoriseret
  3. People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

Planlagt Fastgjort Låst Flyttet Ikke-kategoriseret
climatechange
37 Indlæg 23 Posters 3 Visninger
  • Ældste til nyeste
  • Nyeste til ældste
  • Most Votes
Svar
  • Svar som emne
Login for at svare
Denne tråd er blevet slettet. Kun brugere med emne behandlings privilegier kan se den.
  • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

    @pelle @chu A lot of people have personal vehicles, does that mean that policymakers and car manufacturers have no blame?

    pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
    pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
    pelle@veganism.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #17

    @PallasRiot @chu
    yes, car manufacturers and policymakers have a responsibilty for motorist supremacy, but you can't just buy an SUV and wash your hands: »why aren't the politicians doing anything about the climate?«

    driving is a choice. making that choice means being okay with flattening a certain amount of deer, rabbits, frogs, snakes, foxes, mice and badgers, and making the city streets unsafe for kids as well as grown ups, and polluting air and water with exhaust and microplastics.

    similarly, the US gun lobby has a responsibilty for gun violence, but that doesn't absolve the person who pulls the trigger.

    pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP 1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

      People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

      After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

      Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

      Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

      Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

      #climatechange

      disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
      disorderlyf@todon.euD This user is from outside of this forum
      disorderlyf@todon.eu
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #18

      @chu Yeah, we gave them the benefit of the doubt and didn't advocate immediately after a shooting...and they just did it anyway, sometimes within minutes of news breaking. My guess if your respective conservative/far-right party will do the same.

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • fluttersh@pony.socialF fluttersh@pony.social

        @chu for real we need ACs in the building code here

        fluttersh@pony.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
        fluttersh@pony.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
        fluttersh@pony.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #19

        @chu also airflow architecture so air doesn't stay stagnant in apartments

        1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • susibryant@mastodon.socialS susibryant@mastodon.social

          @mcjevans @pelle @chu
          Thank you for fact checking.

          veganguide@veganism.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
          veganguide@veganism.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
          veganguide@veganism.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #20

          @Susibryant @mcjevans @pelle @chu
          The poll, where 99% of swedes responded that they eat animals, is from March 2026: https://www.svtplay.se/video/K1qQgnn/skavlan-och-sverige-1/skulle-du-lagt-algen-i-ambulansen

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

            People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

            After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

            Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

            Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

            Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

            #climatechange

            erikuden@mastodon.deE This user is from outside of this forum
            erikuden@mastodon.deE This user is from outside of this forum
            erikuden@mastodon.de
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #21

            @chu sadly a prophetical post given the shooting in Stade, Germany.

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

              @jason @chu WAT

              catflyhigh@troet.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
              catflyhigh@troet.cafeC This user is from outside of this forum
              catflyhigh@troet.cafe
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #22

              @theory
              It was not in a school, but in a youth center.
              But anyways, 6 are dead. (all adults)
              2 have been arrested.
              there will be a press-conference at 19.30
              edit: corrected the time for the press conference

              https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/liveticker-zu-stade-sechste-person-stirbt-nach-schuessen-in-jugendeinrichtung,stade-150.html

              @jason @chu

              theory@xoxo.zoneT 1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • catflyhigh@troet.cafeC catflyhigh@troet.cafe

                @theory
                It was not in a school, but in a youth center.
                But anyways, 6 are dead. (all adults)
                2 have been arrested.
                there will be a press-conference at 19.30
                edit: corrected the time for the press conference

                https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/niedersachsen/lueneburg_heide_unterelbe/liveticker-zu-stade-sechste-person-stirbt-nach-schuessen-in-jugendeinrichtung,stade-150.html

                @jason @chu

                theory@xoxo.zoneT This user is from outside of this forum
                theory@xoxo.zoneT This user is from outside of this forum
                theory@xoxo.zone
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #23

                @catflyhigh @jason @chu Jesus

                chu@climatejustice.socialC 1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                  @chu
                  here in #sweden, 99% of humans eat animals, so it appears that the overwhelming majority would rather have deadly #heatwaves than #vegan hotdogs.

                  sure, blame #politicians for their actions. but a people, who want to eat butchered animals, will obviously elect politicians who allow for #slaughterhouses to exist. it's not like the politicians aren't listening here.
                  https://watchdominion.org

                  peachfront@toot.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
                  peachfront@toot.communityP This user is from outside of this forum
                  peachfront@toot.community
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #24

                  @pelle@veganism.social

                  people being animals who need to eat food is not the cause of global climate change & your derail is probably unhelpful

                  veganguide@veganism.socialV 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

                    @catflyhigh @jason @chu Jesus

                    chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                    chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                    chu@climatejustice.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #25

                    @theory @catflyhigh @jason

                    Sorry.
                    I posted this before this happened. I didn't mean for it to sting quite like that.

                    theory@xoxo.zoneT 1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                      @theory @catflyhigh @jason

                      Sorry.
                      I posted this before this happened. I didn't mean for it to sting quite like that.

                      theory@xoxo.zoneT This user is from outside of this forum
                      theory@xoxo.zoneT This user is from outside of this forum
                      theory@xoxo.zone
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #26

                      @chu @catflyhigh @jason Of course, bad timing is all

                      jason@logoff.websiteJ 1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      • pelle@veganism.socialP pelle@veganism.social

                        @PallasRiot @chu
                        yes, car manufacturers and policymakers have a responsibilty for motorist supremacy, but you can't just buy an SUV and wash your hands: »why aren't the politicians doing anything about the climate?«

                        driving is a choice. making that choice means being okay with flattening a certain amount of deer, rabbits, frogs, snakes, foxes, mice and badgers, and making the city streets unsafe for kids as well as grown ups, and polluting air and water with exhaust and microplastics.

                        similarly, the US gun lobby has a responsibilty for gun violence, but that doesn't absolve the person who pulls the trigger.

                        pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP This user is from outside of this forum
                        pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP This user is from outside of this forum
                        pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #27

                        @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

                        You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

                        pelle@veganism.socialP 1 Reply Last reply
                        0
                        • pallasriot@social.treehouse.systemsP pallasriot@social.treehouse.systems

                          @pelle @chu I think the absurdity of your response kind of makes my point for me lol

                          You can be as upset as you want at individual motorists, and they will continue to need to get to work. Individual consumptive choices are seldom a very coherent or organized form of political expression.

                          pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                          pelle@veganism.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                          pelle@veganism.social
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #28

                          @PallasRiot @chu
                          lol what a motor brained response

                          1 Reply Last reply
                          0
                          • peachfront@toot.communityP peachfront@toot.community

                            @pelle@veganism.social

                            people being animals who need to eat food is not the cause of global climate change & your derail is probably unhelpful

                            veganguide@veganism.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                            veganguide@veganism.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
                            veganguide@veganism.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #29

                            @peachfront
                            lol, #vegans are not against food.
                            you're mixing up #veganism and #breathatarianism.
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inedia

                            1 Reply Last reply
                            1
                            0
                            • theory@xoxo.zoneT theory@xoxo.zone

                              @chu @catflyhigh @jason Of course, bad timing is all

                              jason@logoff.websiteJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jason@logoff.websiteJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              jason@logoff.website
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #30

                              @theory @chu @catflyhigh oh of course. I’m just in Europe at the moment and saw the German news first so the opener felt a little close to current events

                              Totally agree on the framing though! “Our country just had over a thousand heat deaths” should be an embarrassment resulting in huge government spending to address the problem. It’s negligent, IMO

                              1 Reply Last reply
                              0
                              • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                                After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                                Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                                Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                                Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                                #climatechange

                                pawcelot@meow.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pawcelot@meow.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
                                pawcelot@meow.social
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #31

                                @chu If I die in a heat wave someday y’all have full permission to politicize the hell out of my death.

                                chu@climatejustice.socialC 1 Reply Last reply
                                0
                                • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                  People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                                  After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                                  Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                                  Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                                  Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                                  #climatechange

                                  cstamp@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cstamp@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  cstamp@mastodon.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #32

                                  @chu 1) Germany is a country, it's not the whole of Europe. 2) The only country that seems to tolerate mass shootings is the US. Can't speak for Germany, but anytime this happens in Canada, gun regulations tighten to make it more difficult for the next one. Our problem is the @#%$@#%@#%$@ lax gun laws in the US and those guns making it across the border. 😞

                                  "Germany has very strict gun laws, among the strictest in Europe."

                                  https://www.dw.com/en/germany-at-least-6-killed-in-shooting-in-stade/a-77754951

                                  chu@climatejustice.socialC 1 Reply Last reply
                                  0
                                  • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                    People in Europe, please don't let your politicians gaslight you like American politicians do to them.

                                    After every school shooting is never the time to talk about gun control. Making it political is somehow "disrespectful" to the innocent children shot by mad men who got easy access to deadly weapons.

                                    Now is the time to make every heat death political. Make every death count. Scream to the rafters. Hold public funerals for victims of heat deaths. Name the perpetrators. Don't let their deaths become meaningless.

                                    Tell their stories. Use the opportunity to tell children about the lies of fossil fuels. Build monuments. Hold vigils. Sue fossil fuel companies for wrongful death.

                                    Whatever tools you have, use them loudly and proudly. Don't let this slide.

                                    #climatechange

                                    lllisha@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
                                    lllisha@tech.lgbtL This user is from outside of this forum
                                    lllisha@tech.lgbt
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #33

                                    @chu heat death should be made political, but why american shootings shouldnt? is there some sarcasm i dont get?

                                    chu@climatejustice.socialC 1 Reply Last reply
                                    0
                                    • lllisha@tech.lgbtL lllisha@tech.lgbt

                                      @chu heat death should be made political, but why american shootings shouldnt? is there some sarcasm i dont get?

                                      chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      chu@climatejustice.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #34

                                      @lllisha

                                      I'm saying it should be.

                                      1 Reply Last reply
                                      0
                                      • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                        @chu 1) Germany is a country, it's not the whole of Europe. 2) The only country that seems to tolerate mass shootings is the US. Can't speak for Germany, but anytime this happens in Canada, gun regulations tighten to make it more difficult for the next one. Our problem is the @#%$@#%@#%$@ lax gun laws in the US and those guns making it across the border. 😞

                                        "Germany has very strict gun laws, among the strictest in Europe."

                                        https://www.dw.com/en/germany-at-least-6-killed-in-shooting-in-stade/a-77754951

                                        chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                        chu@climatejustice.social
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #35

                                        @CStamp

                                        My post had nothing to do with this shooting. It was posted before it happened. Or at least before I knew of it.

                                        I was using the political tactic as an example

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        0
                                        • pawcelot@meow.socialP pawcelot@meow.social

                                          @chu If I die in a heat wave someday y’all have full permission to politicize the hell out of my death.

                                          chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          chu@climatejustice.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
                                          chu@climatejustice.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #36

                                          @pawcelot

                                          I hope every death becomes politicized right now. In Chinese, there's a term, 白死. It means to die for nothing. May nobody 白死 and have every death used for good.

                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          0
                                          Svar
                                          • Svar som emne
                                          Login for at svare
                                          • Ældste til nyeste
                                          • Nyeste til ældste
                                          • Most Votes


                                          • Log ind

                                          • Har du ikke en konto? Tilmeld

                                          • Login or register to search.
                                          Powered by NodeBB Contributors
                                          Graciously hosted by data.coop
                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Hjem
                                          • Seneste
                                          • Etiketter
                                          • Populære
                                          • Verden
                                          • Bruger
                                          • Grupper