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ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

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  • heafnerj@mstdn.socialH heafnerj@mstdn.social

    @docpop Also, isn't this rather a high school level expectation?

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    #16

    @heafnerj @docpop As in "only highschoolers can reasonably be expected to do this"? 🤣

    (scnr)

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    • csilverman@mastodon.socialC csilverman@mastodon.social

      @docpop Funny how AI-related policy changes are revealing deeper problems that existed before AI was an issue.

      Like, Dietterich's text would make perfect sense even in a world where AI never existed. And I wouldn't want to imagine the reaction if blue-check-guy here was a student, asking that question to a teacher/professor in, say, the context of a class on how to properly structure academic writing.

      This isn't an "AI" thing, it's a "some people don't belong in science and never did" thing.

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      #17

      @csilverman @docpop It's almost like broken incentives lead to unintended consequences...

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      • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

        ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

        > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

        yes, lol!

        https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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        #18

        @docpop I made the mistake of briefly looking at his X posts.

        I'm... I'm just going to say I will not comment on it. My god, no.

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        • clew@ecoevo.socialC clew@ecoevo.social

          Also, what he thinks publication credit is for.

          @FediThing @docpop

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          #19

          @clew @FediThing @docpop

          or analysis. Or reading. Or brains.

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          • csilverman@mastodon.socialC csilverman@mastodon.social

            @docpop @FediThing I'm an xcancel fan, so I figured I'd share the link here:

            https://xcancel.com/JimDMiller/status/2055277720326529036

            This Miller character, if he's real, is beyond help. Farther down, he basically says that "AI-hallucinated inaccuracies are better than human inaccuracies because the AI inaccuracies are going to be so obviously wrong that no one would take them seriously."

            I think I'm starting to see why he's so up in arms about the prospect of his scientific work, as it were, being held to higher standards.

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            #20

            @csilverman Incredibly rare Community Notes W

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            • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

              ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

              > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

              yes, lol!

              https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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              #21

              @docpop Local idiot shocked to learn you should understand the subject you're telling other people about

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              • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                yes, lol!

                https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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                #22

                @docpop You expect to get a reasonable response to post on X ???

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                • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                  ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                  > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                  yes, lol!

                  https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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                  #23

                  @docpop James Miller took apart his Rubik's Cube to solve it.

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                    #24

                    @FediThing @docpop the chap's a PhD 🙃

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                    • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                      ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                      > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                      yes, lol!

                      https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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                      #25

                      @docpop well physics papers can have like 50 authors, there is no expectation for all of them to read all of the sources, please

                      I don't always read sources added by my peers if I don't need to.

                      I'm in no way pro-"AI", however you're misrepresenting the point raised...

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                      • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                        ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                        > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                        yes, lol!

                        https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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                        #26

                        @docpop

                        https://archive.ph/HHPGh

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                        • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                          ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                          > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                          yes, lol!

                          https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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                          #27

                          @docpop @EthicalProfessor
                          They're not egen demanding thauch. Thye just require that authors check the citations are to actual papers, mot just imagined plausible-looking lists.

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                          • docpop@mastodon.socialD docpop@mastodon.social

                            ArXiv announces a ban on AI content and the responses are hilarious.

                            > You expect us to actually read the papers we cite?!

                            yes, lol!

                            https://www.404media.co/new-arxiv-rules-ai-generated-papers-ban/

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                            #28

                            @docpop from his profile, Miller has a PhD from U. Chicago, a JD from Stanford, and is a professor at Smith College. 😕 I think this reflects badly on every one of those.

                            He and his defenders are basically saying "everyone does it, and you're naive to complain." If it's true that everyone does it, that reflects badly on modern academia as a whole.

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                            • marta@corteximplant.comM marta@corteximplant.com

                              @docpop well physics papers can have like 50 authors, there is no expectation for all of them to read all of the sources, please

                              I don't always read sources added by my peers if I don't need to.

                              I'm in no way pro-"AI", however you're misrepresenting the point raised...

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                              #29

                              @docpop to add, broken trust from your colleagues has been a problem before AI too, here's a particularly popular story https://laskowskilab.faculty.ucdavis.edu/2020/01/29/retractions/

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