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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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    #23

    @sundogplanets

    Hi Prof.
    Yes... but

    In the moment, it often really really really LOOKS like I have more experience in X, and like how would I know?
    Asking someone if they need help is also fraught and often gets the "are you fucking kidding me? OF COURSE I NEED HELP!"

    However, yes, mansplaining is rife, irritating, and actually kinda abusive, and I am happy to balance my quandary by just getting yelled at occasionally for being slow to help

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
      https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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      #24

      @sundogplanets

      Has your week been that crappy?

      I figure I already know the answer

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
        https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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        #25

        @sundogplanets isn't this... womansplaining?

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
          https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

          ives@mstdn.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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          #26

          @sundogplanets Thx for the diagram! I find most of the paths very logical and obvious. But that last 'did you ask' box before you get to 'not mansplaining' is a bit of an eye opener.
          How should we phrase that question though? I'm afraid that 'would you like me to explain that?' would be really condescending :^].

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          • ives@mstdn.socialI ives@mstdn.social

            @sundogplanets Thx for the diagram! I find most of the paths very logical and obvious. But that last 'did you ask' box before you get to 'not mansplaining' is a bit of an eye opener.
            How should we phrase that question though? I'm afraid that 'would you like me to explain that?' would be really condescending :^].

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            #27

            @ives @sundogplanets Here is my suggestion. When you feel yourself about to explain something, ask her "Are you familiar with _____?". She can either tell you what she knows or ask for an explanation so, that the two of you can establish a common starting point for the next part of conversation.

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            • lauraleedukeshire@cosocial.caL lauraleedukeshire@cosocial.ca

              @ives @sundogplanets Here is my suggestion. When you feel yourself about to explain something, ask her "Are you familiar with _____?". She can either tell you what she knows or ask for an explanation so, that the two of you can establish a common starting point for the next part of conversation.

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              #28

              @LauraleeDukeshire @sundogplanets Simple and elegant... thx!

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              • karen5lund@mastodon.socialK karen5lund@mastodon.social

                @sundogplanets T-shirts?

                For conferences, print a compact version that fits inside the plastic pocket you get for your conference ID and put it in the back, so you can just flip the badge to show it.

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                #29

                @Karen5Lund @sundogplanets

                Handing over your card with this chart could be fun too.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                  https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                  #30

                  @sundogplanets i love this flowchart

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    @socketwench I LOVE THIS IDEA

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                    #31

                    @sundogplanets @socketwench

                    Shall we crowd fund this?

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                    • ives@mstdn.socialI ives@mstdn.social

                      @LauraleeDukeshire @sundogplanets Simple and elegant... thx!

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                      #32

                      @ives @sundogplanets I'll also add that if one catches themself mansplaining (ie. One is explaining and sees "that look" on her face), one can always course correct with a quick, "sorry, I didn't ask if you already know this." And see what she says. A lot of us will appreciate and give grace to someone who is trying to do better.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                        https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                        #33

                        @sundogplanets This is so, so excellent!

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                          https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                          #34

                          @sundogplanets yes! Even using the starting question alone says volumes

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                          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                            I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                            https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                            #35

                            @sundogplanets …totally tempted to explain to you how to do a proper flow diagram.

                            [which is humor…btw]

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                              https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                              #36

                              @sundogplanets Perfect, now I just need one for reply-guying.

                              Say, is there any chance you can get this one into orbit?

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                #37

                                @sundogplanets On the downside, I don't read people's pinned posts before replying to them. On the upside, I don't see how could pinning it possibly hurt

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                                • lauraleedukeshire@cosocial.caL lauraleedukeshire@cosocial.ca

                                  @ives @sundogplanets I'll also add that if one catches themself mansplaining (ie. One is explaining and sees "that look" on her face), one can always course correct with a quick, "sorry, I didn't ask if you already know this." And see what she says. A lot of us will appreciate and give grace to someone who is trying to do better.

                                  tekchip@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #38

                                  @LauraleeDukeshire @ives @sundogplanets this seems the right way.

                                  Everything in the diagram after "No" is assumptions and we all know some things about how those go. 😬

                                  If I assume a thing is known, and it's not, then things go poorly. If I don't assume a thing and mansplain things go poorly.

                                  The question cuts the assumptions and ensures things go well. I've done this in the past but I still need to work harder to make sure it's the default. I appreciate the reminder!

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                    https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                    #39

                                    @sundogplanets The fact that a flow chart is needed 😭 The actual culprits probably wouldn't even bother reading through this though

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                                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                      I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                      https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                      #40

                                      @sundogplanets i feel like we need a box with the question "are you explaining something?"

                                      Because that does come up.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        I am... really tempted to pin this to the top of my account... Print it and put it on my office door... send it as my email signature... wear it around my neck at conferences....
                                        https://www.bbc.com/worklife/article/20180727-mansplaining-explained-in-one-chart

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                                        #41

                                        @sundogplanets Is she wrong, and do you want to explain it to her just as you would explain it to a man? Don’t do that—with a woman, that’s mansplaining! 🙂

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                                        • howking@mastodonczech.czH howking@mastodonczech.cz

                                          @sundogplanets Is she wrong, and do you want to explain it to her just as you would explain it to a man? Don’t do that—with a woman, that’s mansplaining! 🙂

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                                          #42

                                          @howking
                                          do you feel the need to explain?

                                          This seems more about making yourself feel more authoritative than making the other person feel better or more informed. Maybe just ask yourself if it really matters?

                                          Also, for the specific example that the OP is referring to (ie. being a recognized authority on a subject and still being mansplained on that subject), your generic response doesn't really seem all that applicable.

                                          @sundogplanets

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