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When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

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  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

    When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

    #EvanPoll #poll

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    #3

    @evan
    random dingbats

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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

      #EvanPoll #poll

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      #4

      @evan
      I'm not sure I fully understand what you mean by "software", but potentially "Everything but Topics".
      There probably shouldn't be Only One Diagram.

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        #5

        @evan@cosocial.ca @gaditb@icosahedron.website no Pleroma/Akkoma 😢

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          #6

          @evan I think that's a map of the development ecosystem and of developer communities/the social construction of software,

          so not nothing but very distinct from what making Instances nodes would be a map of.

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          • categulario@mstdn.mxC categulario@mstdn.mx

            @evan potatoes! interconected by their roots

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            #7

            @categulario @evan blahajs

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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

              #EvanPoll #poll

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              #8

              @evan potentially as software Types:
              Blog, Microblog, Photoblog, Forums, Bookreviews!

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              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                #EvanPoll #poll

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                #9

                @evan But, probably for what I think you want this for, it should 100% be instance.

                Again being a parody of myself, but with acknowledgements to Virginia Shea (1995):

                > "The ActivityPub Matrix" refers to all the computers in the world that can exchange JSON-LD Objects.
                > "The Fediverse" means almost the same thing. It's sort of a psychic superset of the ActivityPub Matrix -- it's the psychic space in which people interact when they communicate via ActivityPub. "Cyberspace" and "the Fediverse" are used synonymously in this book.

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                  #EvanPoll #poll

                  andypiper@macaw.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #10

                  @evan I prefer “servers” as a synonym for “instances”; I picked another item from the poll but that’s an aside to the options presented.

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                  • django@social.coopD django@social.coop

                    @evan potentially as software Types:
                    Blog, Microblog, Photoblog, Forums, Bookreviews!

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                    #11

                    @evan I’m not a fan of relying on specific software because it becomes either referencing niche (little known outside our tech circles) software OR silo clones but interconnected which also adds a layer of abstraction

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                    • gaditb@icosahedron.websiteG gaditb@icosahedron.website

                      @evan I think that's a map of the development ecosystem and of developer communities/the social construction of software,

                      so not nothing but very distinct from what making Instances nodes would be a map of.

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                      #12

                      @gaditb It says "Fediverse" in the title.

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                        #EvanPoll #poll

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                        #13

                        @evan
                        What instance/server/software someone might be using is irrelevant, we all follow *people*.

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          @gaditb It says "Fediverse" in the title.

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                          #14

                          @evan I know I mean, functionally.

                          If I draw something that's a map of Ellenville and label it Springfield it still works as a map of Ellenville.

                          (And like, it's a (maybe, I assume) map of the developer communities/social landscape around the software construction /of Fediverse software in particular/, so arguably that's not an inaccurate label on it...)

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                          • gaditb@icosahedron.websiteG gaditb@icosahedron.website

                            @evan I know I mean, functionally.

                            If I draw something that's a map of Ellenville and label it Springfield it still works as a map of Ellenville.

                            (And like, it's a (maybe, I assume) map of the developer communities/social landscape around the software construction /of Fediverse software in particular/, so arguably that's not an inaccurate label on it...)

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                            #15

                            @gaditb You asked for clarification, and I gave you an example of the kind of diagram I meant, from https://www.britannica.com/technology/fediverse .

                            There are a lot of others. This is not an unusual way for people to diagram the Fediverse. Here's the one from Wikipedia.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse#/media/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png

                            I think the people who made these diagrams intended them to be diagrams of the Fediverse, which is why they labelled them "The Fediverse".

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                            • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

                              @evan I prefer “servers” as a synonym for “instances”; I picked another item from the poll but that’s an aside to the options presented.

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                              #16

                              @andypiper I think it's better too!

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                              • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                @gaditb You asked for clarification, and I gave you an example of the kind of diagram I meant, from https://www.britannica.com/technology/fediverse .

                                There are a lot of others. This is not an unusual way for people to diagram the Fediverse. Here's the one from Wikipedia.

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse#/media/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png

                                I think the people who made these diagrams intended them to be diagrams of the Fediverse, which is why they labelled them "The Fediverse".

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                                #17

                                @evan Oh! Sorry, I thought that was like, an example of what you were thinking about in the conversation ij general. I didn't realize you meant it as example-of-existing-usage, my bad.

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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                                  #EvanPoll #poll

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                                  #18

                                  @evan Wow. This is a tough one. Bravo.

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                                  • rickscully@heads.socialR rickscully@heads.social

                                    @evan Wow. This is a tough one. Bravo.

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                                    @rickscully Thank you!

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                                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                      @andypiper I think it's better too!

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                                      @evan@cosocial.ca @andypiper@macaw.social didn't found servers then I chose softwares diversity must be clear. I'm bored of CEOs and branding.
                                      Communities.
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                                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                        When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                                        #EvanPoll #poll

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                                        #21

                                        @evan i picked people, because ultimately federation is the implementation detail and people communicating is the reason why any of us are here, not vice versa. buuut it really depends on what the diagram is meant to communicate and to whom

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                                        • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @evan i picked people, because ultimately federation is the implementation detail and people communicating is the reason why any of us are here, not vice versa. buuut it really depends on what the diagram is meant to communicate and to whom

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                                          @evan I think Topics could just as well have the same rational, and it's interesting to me that it has scored so low so far.

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