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When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

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  • andypiper@macaw.socialA andypiper@macaw.social

    @evan I prefer “servers” as a synonym for “instances”; I picked another item from the poll but that’s an aside to the options presented.

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    #16

    @andypiper I think it's better too!

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    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

      @gaditb You asked for clarification, and I gave you an example of the kind of diagram I meant, from https://www.britannica.com/technology/fediverse .

      There are a lot of others. This is not an unusual way for people to diagram the Fediverse. Here's the one from Wikipedia.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fediverse#/media/File:A_view_into_the_Fediverse.png

      I think the people who made these diagrams intended them to be diagrams of the Fediverse, which is why they labelled them "The Fediverse".

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      #17

      @evan Oh! Sorry, I thought that was like, an example of what you were thinking about in the conversation ij general. I didn't realize you meant it as example-of-existing-usage, my bad.

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      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

        When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

        #EvanPoll #poll

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        #18

        @evan Wow. This is a tough one. Bravo.

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        • rickscully@heads.socialR rickscully@heads.social

          @evan Wow. This is a tough one. Bravo.

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          #19

          @rickscully Thank you!

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          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

            @andypiper I think it's better too!

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            #20
            @evan@cosocial.ca @andypiper@macaw.social didn't found servers then I chose softwares diversity must be clear. I'm bored of CEOs and branding.
            Communities.
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            • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

              When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

              #EvanPoll #poll

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              #21

              @evan i picked people, because ultimately federation is the implementation detail and people communicating is the reason why any of us are here, not vice versa. buuut it really depends on what the diagram is meant to communicate and to whom

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              • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @evan i picked people, because ultimately federation is the implementation detail and people communicating is the reason why any of us are here, not vice versa. buuut it really depends on what the diagram is meant to communicate and to whom

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                #22

                @evan I think Topics could just as well have the same rational, and it's interesting to me that it has scored so low so far.

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                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                  When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                  #EvanPoll #poll

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                  #23

                  @evan What are nodes in this case?

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                  • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                    When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                    #EvanPoll #poll

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                    #24

                    @evan @mayintoronto but I wish the geeky "instances" word could be made more general-public friendly.

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                    • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                      When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                      #EvanPoll #poll

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                      #25

                      @evan I'm a fan of making diagrams information-dense, so I'd want to try to illustrate (or even better, animate) all of the above. Have instance nodes be their software logos but labelled with their domains. Show people connecting to their own instances using phones or PCs. Show them creating posts, animate them flying across the fediverse. Show hashtags being used. Show different software instances interacting. Maybe try to animate a whole follow post sequence for individuals and hashtags.

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                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                        When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                        #EvanPoll #poll

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                        #26

                        @evan depends on what the illustration is being used for. For a generic usage, I would say people and instances. I chose "people", since ultimately that's the point.

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                        • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                          @andypiper I think it's better too!

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                          #27

                          @evan @andypiper Same here, definitely prefer "servers" to "instances", but my favorite is "communities".

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                          • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                            When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                            #EvanPoll #poll

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                            #28

                            @evan
                            (Instances)
                            Of course, the answer is always really going to be "It depends on what you are illustrating".

                            If the point is interoperability, then "software" makes sense, for example.

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                            • aeva@mastodon.gamedev.placeA aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place

                              @evan i picked people, because ultimately federation is the implementation detail and people communicating is the reason why any of us are here, not vice versa. buuut it really depends on what the diagram is meant to communicate and to whom

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                              #29

                              @aeva @evan so much this. People are the "what" or the "who"; instances are the "how".

                              Although you could do both, it is very much more important to me to draw how I know Ben than line-trace wires from one instance to another.

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                              • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                                @evan What are nodes in this case?

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                                #30

                                @mayintoronto that's the question!

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                                • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                  @mayintoronto that's the question!

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                                  #31

                                  @evan oh I see!

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                                  • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                                    @evan oh I see!

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                                    #32

                                    @evan In that case, I'd argue the nodes are clusters of people who eventually end up following each other due repeat interactions.

                                    There are probably identifiable individuals who would be central to several nodes of people who gather around central interests!

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                                    • mayintoronto@beige.partyM mayintoronto@beige.party

                                      @evan oh I see!

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                                      #33

                                      @mayintoronto @evan so, I was thinking in terms of visibility and moderation.

                                      But in terms of function, I'm with May. It's a social-graph isn't it?

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                                      • evan@cosocial.caE evan@cosocial.ca

                                        When illustrating the Fediverse as a network, what should the nodes be?

                                        #EvanPoll #poll

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                                        #34

                                        @evan [Instances] I think this maps onto the idea in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Node_(networking) that "many physical network nodes are host computers", in the sense that both a host computer and an instance is the bit on which people have their accounts.

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                                        • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

                                          @evan @andypiper Same here, definitely prefer "servers" to "instances", but my favorite is "communities".

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                                          #35

                                          @stefan @andypiper Servers would have been better. Can we live with instances?

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