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  3. Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.

Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.

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  • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

    @hpod16 Being locked into a Server is why I do not post often, I don't see what people in Europe really think. But on X I do. It is a true hodge podge of posts from around the globe. I try to stick to Warcraft, animal and science stuff. Very little of that here. On Mastodon they just post Hate Trump Hate America. Why would I want to see that all day.

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    #72

    @MissWarcraft @hpod16 You can makeyour own filters to exclude those tooths.

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    • stefan@stefanbohacek.onlineS stefan@stefanbohacek.online

      @MissWarcraft Ah, okay, it's referencing old data from https://mastodon-analytics.com/.

      Thank you!

      @hpod16

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      #73

      @stefan @hpod16 BlueSky has 4 Million active monthly users too. Lot of Gaming, Cats. And they cracked down on the hate. The moderators issued warnings about that and it slowly stopped. Companies do not like hate, they know people from all demographics use their product. That is something hateful people don't realize.

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      • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

        @benny @lucien @hpod16

        But is UX better there now?

        I can only speak for Bluesky and on mobile it's horrible.

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        #74

        @project1enigma @benny @lucien @hpod16 people often mistake familiarity for ease, like when windows sysadmins complain about having to type a command on linux because it's "hard to remember" right before listing off their 12 pages of instructions on which 10 menus you have to go down and pixel hunt or a 200 character long registry keys you need to search for in regedit to fix a basic setting.

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        • mycotropic@beige.partyM mycotropic@beige.party

          @szkodnix @hpod16

          Do European universities host instances? I've tried to get mine to host one for staff/students and faculty but I got nowhere.

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          #75

          @mycotropic
          Here are lists (in German): https://mastodon-listen.playground.54gradsoftware.de/?liste=hochschulen-mastodon-instance-GLOBAL
          @szkodnix @hpod16

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          • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

            @stefan @hpod16 This is a 2025 report. And one from Jan 2026, Insta active monthly users over 2 billion. When I came here I wanted Cats, Science and Warcraft. I follow those but very limited activity, but lots of Politics. That might be part of the problem. People are burned out on Politics except for a few hard core people.

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            #76

            @MissWarcraft Maybe, but I don't think so. Political content seems to do really well on Bluesky, I see a ton of it getting shared widely.

            I think it's just the toxic culture here. I've seen so many people driven out. There are too many self-righteous, gate-keepy people. On Bluesky, you can at least lock your replies, no wonder people feel safer there.

            Compare the drop-off on https://mastodon-analytics.com vs https://bluefacts.app/bluesky-user-growth.

            @hpod16

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            • lucien@toot.communityL lucien@toot.community

              @hpod16 I agree 😁 I ended up on Reddit rabbit holes and documentation pages to learn some things. This user type will however not search and if they can't ask their friends or family for help, they give up.

              Still, steps are taken to make this process more user friendly, which is great!

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              #77

              @lucien which is one of the main reasons I greet every new person I see apply to our instance—so they immediately know someone here.

              @hpod16

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              • misswarcraft@mastodon.socialM misswarcraft@mastodon.social

                @stefan @hpod16 BlueSky has 4 Million active monthly users too. Lot of Gaming, Cats. And they cracked down on the hate. The moderators issued warnings about that and it slowly stopped. Companies do not like hate, they know people from all demographics use their product. That is something hateful people don't realize.

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                #78

                @MissWarcraft I think it's a combination of the fediverse attracting a more techy, less socially adept crowd, with no tools for defending against harassment and unhelpful comments.

                There was a hope that at least some of it was due to Mastodon not showing all replies, so people would keep piling on, but I am not sure that was really the problem.

                https://stefanbohacek.online/@stefan/115866763237888337

                @hpod16

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  @lucien which is one of the main reasons I greet every new person I see apply to our instance—so they immediately know someone here.

                  @hpod16

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                  #79

                  @alice the internet needs more people like that 🙏

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                  • lucien@toot.communityL lucien@toot.community

                    @hpod16 the problem is that the same people that don't know will run into lots of UX issues when trying Fediverse. I know a few sadly...

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                    #80

                    @lucien @hpod16 I kind of like that the barrier to entry is a little higher in the fediverse.

                    Keeps the worst people out by sheer laziness.

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                    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                      Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                      The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                      #81

                      @hpod16 hope to see more of them here.

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                      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                        Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                        The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                        #82

                        @hpod16 I don't hold out a lot of faith on the median level of intelligence or common sense for the FB crowd. Nothing surprises me with that lot any more.

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                        • gunchleoc@mastodon.scotG gunchleoc@mastodon.scot

                          @lucien @hpod16 Facebook users might also be more comfortable with Friendica rather than Mastodon.

                          Maybe collaborate with Friendica developers to get a good beginner's guide for Facebook users going?

                          When working on such a guide, it's always good to have the view of somebody completely new to the software like yourself.

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                          #83

                          @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
                          My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
                          I'm hoping it's improved since.

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                          • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                            Sometimes, people on Facebook don't know the Fediverse exists.
                            The European Commission likes to tell them. 💜 😉

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                            #84

                            @hpod16 wow, great! @EUCommission

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                            • sarahw@mastodon.greenS sarahw@mastodon.green

                              @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
                              My experience of friendica was awful. Full of dodgy accounts and some very nasty porn. Otherwise the only posts I saw were from Mastodon.
                              I'm hoping it's improved since.

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                              #85

                              @Sarahw @gunchleoc @lucien @hpod16
                              Mainly depending the server you are connected.
                              We have choice, many choice, and we also can move from one to another, have several accounts, choose clients too.
                              That is so great.

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                              • nelson@wetdry.worldN nelson@wetdry.world

                                @hpod16 was the fediverse created in europe? it's insane to say this when the technology itself is being mantained and expanded by people all around the world, including americans, asians, south americans, africans, etc.

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                                #86

                                @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social yesn't. The group designing ActivityPub as protocol was probably international and intercontinental. But the biggest name in that space, Mastodon, is very much German software

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                                • mstar@mk.absturztau.beM mstar@mk.absturztau.be

                                  @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social yesn't. The group designing ActivityPub as protocol was probably international and intercontinental. But the biggest name in that space, Mastodon, is very much German software

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                                  #87

                                  @mstar @hpod16 that would be completely ignoring the huge impact of misskey and forks, and how many of the mastodon contributors are international

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                                  • nelson@wetdry.worldN nelson@wetdry.world

                                    @mstar @hpod16 that would be completely ignoring the huge impact of misskey and forks, and how many of the mastodon contributors are international

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                                    #88

                                    @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social eh, not really. Sure, misskey is a big part now. But the big initial push was Mastodon. And, by share, Masto still runs on like 3/4 of all servers iirc. And you can still claim that Masto is German because the main driving force behind development is still the non-profit, located in Germany (even if German government bullshit caused them to also register in Canada iirc)

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                                    • mstar@mk.absturztau.beM mstar@mk.absturztau.be

                                      @nelson@wetdry.world @hpod16@eupolicy.social eh, not really. Sure, misskey is a big part now. But the big initial push was Mastodon. And, by share, Masto still runs on like 3/4 of all servers iirc. And you can still claim that Masto is German because the main driving force behind development is still the non-profit, located in Germany (even if German government bullshit caused them to also register in Canada iirc)

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                                      #89

                                      @mstar @hpod16 true, but to call the fediverse essentially an "european social media" is a gross misunderstanding and misrepresentation of what happens in the space, both of open source in general and just the nature of the fediverse as a network

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