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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
    tante@tldr.nettime.orgT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

    cwebber@social.coopC patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP astridpoot@mastodon.socialA landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR 39 Replies Last reply
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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @tante Spot-on!

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

        patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @tante and also, the whole power dynamic of shifting home/personal computing back to a mainframe that you need to buy time on. what has already happened with a lot of software moving to a "rent, but never own" model

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

          astridpoot@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @tante yes

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          • patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.socialP patrick_h_lauke@mastodon.social

            @tante and also, the whole power dynamic of shifting home/personal computing back to a mainframe that you need to buy time on. what has already happened with a lot of software moving to a "rent, but never own" model

            strayhorse@c.imS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @patrick_h_lauke @tante Interesting vid posted yesterday by Rick Beato https://youtu.be/YTLnnoZPALI?si=9DOCmiCwURXovAR6

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

              The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

              It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

              landelare@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @tante Cool, cool. So, when are they going to ship this supposed intelligence? 🙃

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @tante Christ…

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                  johnzajac@dice.campJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @tante

                  It's extra funny because his technology is garbage and is not capable, in any form, of replacing or even augmenting human intelligence.

                  Any database in which 20% of the data is wrong, but you don't know which 20%, is a database in which 100% of the data is useless.

                  He can dream shit like this up as much as he wants, but it's not going to happen.

                  No matter how much the Bosses shovel LLMs down our throats, they're never going to not be garbage.

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                    rainbowtastetester@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @tante not to mention the “if it’s 80% of the way there it’s good enough to ship” logic that a lot of companies are using to justify mass firing employees. Substituting human logic for half-right generated nonsense.

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                      xpomul@norden.socialX This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #10

                      @tante @cwebber I’d state it needs intelligence to distinguish intelligence from experience, knowledge and pattern recognition. I don’t know what this says about Sam Altman 😇

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                        freddy@social.security.plumbingF This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @tante yes. And whoever believes the usage will remain cheap is just naive at this point.

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                          ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @tante Yep... and it's been obvious for many, but sadly not nearly enough.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                            lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @tante but who is going to buy it when everyone's broke?

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                            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                              RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                              The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                              It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                              markhughes@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @tante Only the shit they'll sell back to you will be worse because LLMs are inferior to their inputs...

                              ...and nobody using it will know enough to see that.

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                              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                                @tante Spot-on!

                                xgebi@hachyderm.ioX This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/116209449941602124

                                @cwebber @tante yesterday @nixCraft was more on spot than I thought

                                https://hachyderm.io/@nixCraft@mastodon.social/116209450240676287

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                  tidalflats@mastodon.coffeeT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @tante @frank

                                  https://dn710709.ca.archive.org/0/items/TheFeelingOfPower/The%20Feeling%20of%20Power.pdf
                                  - Isaac Asimov, 1958

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                                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                    musiquenow@todon.euM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #17

                                    @tante

                                    #SamAltman, #AlexKarp, #PeterThiel #MarkZuckerberg, etc MUST BE STOPPED!!!

                                    #Tech #BugRech #BillionairesSUCK ##TechBillionairesSUCK #Grift #Capitalism

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                                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                      bjb@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @tante

                                      Not just "AI". I can't believe people rush to subscribe to taps where techbros siphon our money.

                                      You want to call people? There's a subscription for that. You want to listen to music/watch movies? There's a subscription for that. You want to have a door camera? There's a subscription for that. You want to make dinner? There's a subscription for that. You want to edit documents? There's a subscription for that. You want to learn a language? There's a subscription for that.

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                                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                        awkapuma@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #19

                                        @tante

                                        Clarifications to billionaires:
                                        Water and electricity are not services, they are HUMAN RIGHTS. Without those two things, people go back to middle age and/or die.

                                        The so-called "artificial intelligence" has NOTHING intelligent about it. Comparing a computer program to the human brain is a marketing and propaganda operation.

                                        Rich people think Human Rights are just "services" they can cut off if you dont pay.
                                        Sadly, they convinced many people that that is true.

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                                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                          _chris_real@kolektiva.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #20

                                          @tante

                                          Just the trouble I went through to watch that clip (gatekeepers who are easily challenged by consumers with demands, lol) shows you how they can't make this powerful, unless you pay for it.

                                          It's like the encryption app that won't work unless all your friends use it—and they all don't.

                                          Our strength in our convictions, leading to our purchasing choices, IS their Achilles Heel.

                                          Lenovo just defaulted all their Thinkpads to Linux Ubuntu, all on their own, only as the result of consumer complaints about the latest Microsoft release.

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