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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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    #8

    @tante

    It's extra funny because his technology is garbage and is not capable, in any form, of replacing or even augmenting human intelligence.

    Any database in which 20% of the data is wrong, but you don't know which 20%, is a database in which 100% of the data is useless.

    He can dream shit like this up as much as he wants, but it's not going to happen.

    No matter how much the Bosses shovel LLMs down our throats, they're never going to not be garbage.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

      rainbowtastetester@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #9

      @tante not to mention the “if it’s 80% of the way there it’s good enough to ship” logic that a lot of companies are using to justify mass firing employees. Substituting human logic for half-right generated nonsense.

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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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        #10

        @tante @cwebber I’d state it needs intelligence to distinguish intelligence from experience, knowledge and pattern recognition. I don’t know what this says about Sam Altman 😇

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

          freddy@social.security.plumbingF This user is from outside of this forum
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          #11

          @tante yes. And whoever believes the usage will remain cheap is just naive at this point.

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

            ainmosni@social.ainmosni.euA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #12

            @tante Yep... and it's been obvious for many, but sadly not nearly enough.

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            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

              RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

              The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

              It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

              lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #13

              @tante but who is going to buy it when everyone's broke?

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                markhughes@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #14

                @tante Only the shit they'll sell back to you will be worse because LLMs are inferior to their inputs...

                ...and nobody using it will know enough to see that.

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                • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                  @tante Spot-on!

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                  #15

                  RE: https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/116209449941602124

                  @cwebber @tante yesterday @nixCraft was more on spot than I thought

                  https://hachyderm.io/@nixCraft@mastodon.social/116209450240676287

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                  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                    RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                    The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                    It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                    #16

                    @tante @frank

                    https://dn710709.ca.archive.org/0/items/TheFeelingOfPower/The%20Feeling%20of%20Power.pdf
                    - Isaac Asimov, 1958

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                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                      #17

                      @tante

                      #SamAltman, #AlexKarp, #PeterThiel #MarkZuckerberg, etc MUST BE STOPPED!!!

                      #Tech #BugRech #BillionairesSUCK ##TechBillionairesSUCK #Grift #Capitalism

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                        bjb@fosstodon.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #18

                        @tante

                        Not just "AI". I can't believe people rush to subscribe to taps where techbros siphon our money.

                        You want to call people? There's a subscription for that. You want to listen to music/watch movies? There's a subscription for that. You want to have a door camera? There's a subscription for that. You want to make dinner? There's a subscription for that. You want to edit documents? There's a subscription for that. You want to learn a language? There's a subscription for that.

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                          The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                          It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                          awkapuma@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #19

                          @tante

                          Clarifications to billionaires:
                          Water and electricity are not services, they are HUMAN RIGHTS. Without those two things, people go back to middle age and/or die.

                          The so-called "artificial intelligence" has NOTHING intelligent about it. Comparing a computer program to the human brain is a marketing and propaganda operation.

                          Rich people think Human Rights are just "services" they can cut off if you dont pay.
                          Sadly, they convinced many people that that is true.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                            The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                            It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                            #20

                            @tante

                            Just the trouble I went through to watch that clip (gatekeepers who are easily challenged by consumers with demands, lol) shows you how they can't make this powerful, unless you pay for it.

                            It's like the encryption app that won't work unless all your friends use it—and they all don't.

                            Our strength in our convictions, leading to our purchasing choices, IS their Achilles Heel.

                            Lenovo just defaulted all their Thinkpads to Linux Ubuntu, all on their own, only as the result of consumer complaints about the latest Microsoft release.

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                            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                              RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                              The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                              It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                              #21

                              @tante I have a dream, AI can help us and can be helpful tool, but needs to be in hands of people not corporations. imagine something like distributed LLM running some federated way, allowing parcitipants to prompt for exchange of some small portion of compute time of their machine. Trained the same way. Project seti[at]home can be inspiration. And yep I know I have declare now myself as enemy of state and fediverse, but I truly believe this shall be way. We can eradicate AI datacenters, distribute energy usage cross world, save water and destroy that technobross seizure of our future.

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                              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                petesmom@kolektiva.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #22

                                @tante
                                I cannot express enough how disgusting and inhuman I believe Sam's statement is. There needs to be an island for folx who have chosen not to engage as humans with other humans. That this is presented as a normal human being with a normal human thought is mind boggling.

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                                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                  RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                  The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                  It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

                                  gary_alderson@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #23

                                  @tante how many tokens do you really need when they are practically free and you have some time to kill? they are already losing billions, the toxic combo of bill, sam, and elon has effectively killed any hopes of acting in good will or good faith with these guys. There are alternatives, i think it is going to take small biz a few years but viable alternatives will crop up that will alter opportunity cost, cut out the middleman #frank is dead #fair use LV

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                                  • lritter@mastodon.gamedev.placeL lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @tante but who is going to buy it when everyone's broke?

                                    ftranschel@norden.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #24

                                    @lritter @tante I think the answer to this question may put you in despair.

                                    But don't fret; even good ol' Marie Antoinette already had an answer for that.

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                                    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                      RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                      The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                      It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                      #25

                                      @tante They're already halfway done in some places. Some folks can't read, write, or do basic arithmetics without tool support anymore. Let alone summarize, argue, or conceptualize.

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                                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                        RE: https://social.coop/@cwebber/116217477822586442

                                        The whole "AI" industry is just based on the hope that they can deskill people fast enough that they'll have to rent back cognitive support systems. Forever.

                                        It's like Uber. Just that they don't try to break existing transportation infrastructures but your brain.

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                                        #26

                                        @tante Click click...

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                                        • ftranschel@norden.socialF ftranschel@norden.social

                                          @lritter @tante I think the answer to this question may put you in despair.

                                          But don't fret; even good ol' Marie Antoinette already had an answer for that.

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                                          #27

                                          @ftranschel @lritter @tante despair aside (despair may be a luxury when compared to survival), I think you hit it on the head. Deskill to rent back skill but no skill means no money to buy back.

                                          It’s like selling a home while you’re sleeping it.

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