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  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

    Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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    #40

    @zackwhittaker

    Lots of places have "two party" (or "all party") consent laws for recording audio. I am eagerly awaiting the lawsuits. And have been for a while, now

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    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

      Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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      #41

      @zackwhittaker Yeah, it's super creepy, def not OK and very much anti-privacy for the person(s) being recorded essentially without knowledge.

      What they're doing there is encrypting a conversation for the person who records it in effect, whilst giving absolutely no right of consent to the other party. Super dooper creepy and really really not good.

      This is REALLY not a good look.

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      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

        Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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        #42

        @zackwhittaker I mean it's good to practice security culture, where you don't idly talk about anything sensitive unless necessary, but this takes it to more of a "I need you to strip naked and join me in this soundproof room before we can talk about personal stuff just in case" scenario, which I am not emotionally prepared for. I mean, aside from a few close friends, obvs.

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        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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          #43

          @zackwhittaker @steltenpower I remember when these events were fun

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          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

            Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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            #44

            @zackwhittaker end-to-end like in whatsapp where all the governments in the world can see everything but it's secure somehow

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            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

              Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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              #45

              @zackwhittaker We need Benn Jordan's microphone jammer: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LOO3A1aLnUM

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              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                #46

                @zackwhittaker I'm so tired of this limitless specter of productivity, especially in relation to expanding behaviors that limit user privacy.

                I'm switching to grapheneOS when my current phone croaks.

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                • vikki@know.me.ukV vikki@know.me.uk

                  @zackwhittaker Yeah, it's super creepy, def not OK and very much anti-privacy for the person(s) being recorded essentially without knowledge.

                  What they're doing there is encrypting a conversation for the person who records it in effect, whilst giving absolutely no right of consent to the other party. Super dooper creepy and really really not good.

                  This is REALLY not a good look.

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                  #47

                  @vikki @zackwhittaker
                  Do I really need to check if someone has a new-ish IPhone before I talk to them, so I can show them that paper note I always carry with me that says: "You must put your spying device somewhere out of microphone reach before I talk to you at all"?

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                  • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                    Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                    #48

                    @zackwhittaker
                    I cannot emphasize enough how much I hate this.

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                    • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                      Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

                      quietworld@disabled.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #49

                      @zackwhittaker there are no words for how not happy, jazzed, or cool i am with this

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                      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                        Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                        #50

                        @zackwhittaker Are they just chasing LG's #datamining tactics, or are they just continuing the #TechBros amalgamation during the US Administration's inauguration?

                        Will the next of the .01% be angling to ride the momentum of the #ClimateCRISIS and corner the #energy markets, to build the very best luxury bunkers for them and theirs, while the rest of us choke on #Capitalism?

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                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                          #51

                          @zackwhittaker watched the event and thought: Apple Watch feature not legal in Germany… then I remembered an official statement about Meta Glasses „all fine, not hidden as there is this bright LED…“
                          As Apple explained their privacy approach I nevertheless am still holding my option - not gonna work that way

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                          • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                            Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                            #52

                            @zackwhittaker is someone, somewhere working on a micro white noise generator?🤞

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                            • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                              Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                              #53

                              @zackwhittaker where is the anti-tech tech? The jammers, the voice scramblers, the green laser glasses. Becuase I would pay good money for that shit. Clearly my privacy is being undone by foolishly associating with other humans.

                              ...and I reckon a nice big pair of laser glasses would fix that

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                              • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                                #54

                                @zackwhittaker @zazzoo Disgusting!!

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                                • shadows@beige.partyS shadows@beige.party

                                  @NMBA @zackwhittaker no idea how it applies in Canada, but I seem to remember reading that there’s a device (a TV, I think) that already does this and informs the owner that it’s their responsibility to tell anyone that could be recorded. Same old pass the buck bullshit will likely be used by Apple.

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                                  #55

                                  @shadows @NMBA @zackwhittaker it was LG, again.

                                  https://youtu.be/Q9uefFYe6bM

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                                  • kleines_z@queer.groupK kleines_z@queer.group

                                    @vikki @zackwhittaker
                                    Do I really need to check if someone has a new-ish IPhone before I talk to them, so I can show them that paper note I always carry with me that says: "You must put your spying device somewhere out of microphone reach before I talk to you at all"?

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                                    #56

                                    @kleines_z @zackwhittaker @vikki LG wants to have a chat with you about how advanced microphones in Smart TVs can be (70 feet…) and how amazing even the simpler ambient mic works

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                                    • bowreality@thecanadian.socialB bowreality@thecanadian.social

                                      @zackwhittaker @zazzoo Disgusting!!

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                                      #57

                                      @Bowreality "Private" always being the default starting point, of course - at least until consumers lock in.

                                      @zackwhittaker

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                                      • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                        Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                                        #58

                                        @zackwhittaker and the compute power spent to transcribe a bunch of shit no one will ever read or listen to should be illegal.

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                                        • zackwhittaker@mastodon.socialZ zackwhittaker@mastodon.social

                                          Watching this Apple event tout how iPhones will soon be able to record ambient audio/conversations and transcribe "high level notes" for you. It's billed as private and end-to-end encrypted, but I think the bigger harm is the normalization of always-listening devices. It's creepy and not normal.

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                                          #59

                                          @zackwhittaker "Private," in this case, seems to mean that the company doesn't see what's on your phone, but it's creating an atmosphere in which no one in your ambient range is guaranteed privacy from you.

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