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  3. You don't use open source software because it's better (it usually isn't).

You don't use open source software because it's better (it usually isn't).

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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    As someone who was a true devotee of FutureWave SmartSketch (which became FutureSplash Animator, which became Macromedia Shockwave Flash, which became Adobe Flash, which became Adobe Animator) my sorrow is incalculable. Every day I long for software I had in the 90s which I can't find anything as good as today.

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    #8

    @mcc This made me remember all the awesome, free games on Newgrounds and other sites 😕

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    • lordcaramac@discordian.socialL lordcaramac@discordian.social

      @mcc If you use open source software that isn't particularly popular, it might cease to exist as well. I used a "soundtracer" (a kind of synthesizer that you script in a language similar to that being used for POVray scenes) called "sapphire" over a decade ago, and then it suddenly vanished. I can't even find the source anymore, and the last time I downloaded the source a couple of years ago, I couldn't compile it because all the dependencies were outdated.

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      #9

      @LordCaramac @mcc Yeah, but at least then it would only take a sufficiently skilled group of people to make it work again, without _also_ needing to pay off greedy IP owners who'd rather see it rot.

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      • rogerbw@discordian.socialR rogerbw@discordian.social

        @LordCaramac @mcc Yeah, but at least then it would only take a sufficiently skilled group of people to make it work again, without _also_ needing to pay off greedy IP owners who'd rather see it rot.

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        #10

        @RogerBW @mcc The source might still exist somewhere.

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        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

          As someone who was a true devotee of FutureWave SmartSketch (which became FutureSplash Animator, which became Macromedia Shockwave Flash, which became Adobe Flash, which became Adobe Animator) my sorrow is incalculable. Every day I long for software I had in the 90s which I can't find anything as good as today.

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          #11

          @mcc amen.

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          • lordcaramac@discordian.socialL lordcaramac@discordian.social

            @RogerBW @mcc The source might still exist somewhere.

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            #12

            @RogerBW @mcc Nope, all I can find are links to the original website that doesn't exist anymore. https://web.archive.org/web/20050901030734/http://www.pale.org/sapphire/

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            • lordcaramac@discordian.socialL lordcaramac@discordian.social

              @RogerBW @mcc The source might still exist somewhere.

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              #13

              @LordCaramac @RogerBW Although it's not the point of your post, would you like a boost trying to find the original?

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              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                @LordCaramac @RogerBW Although it's not the point of your post, would you like a boost trying to find the original?

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                #14

                @mcc @RogerBW I already found it on the Wayback Machine, thanks anyway.

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                • lordcaramac@discordian.socialL lordcaramac@discordian.social

                  @RogerBW @mcc Nope, all I can find are links to the original website that doesn't exist anymore. https://web.archive.org/web/20050901030734/http://www.pale.org/sapphire/

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                  #15

                  @LordCaramac @RogerBW @mcc The website has an (archived) link to the tarball with the source code: https://web.archive.org/web/20050901030734/http://www.pale.org/sapphire/sapphire_19.tgz (If the downloaded file ends in .txt for you as well just remove/change that extension to .tgz)

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                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                    As someone who was a true devotee of FutureWave SmartSketch (which became FutureSplash Animator, which became Macromedia Shockwave Flash, which became Adobe Flash, which became Adobe Animator) my sorrow is incalculable. Every day I long for software I had in the 90s which I can't find anything as good as today.

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                    #16

                    @mcc I was also a true devotee, but my grief ran its course more than a decade ago.

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                    • lenni@fosstodon.orgL lenni@fosstodon.org

                      @LordCaramac @RogerBW @mcc The website has an (archived) link to the tarball with the source code: https://web.archive.org/web/20050901030734/http://www.pale.org/sapphire/sapphire_19.tgz (If the downloaded file ends in .txt for you as well just remove/change that extension to .tgz)

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                      #17

                      @Lenni @RogerBW @mcc Already ahead of you, looking at the content right now. I'm a horrible dilettante of a coder though, I don't think I can fix it.

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                      • bit101@mstdn.socialB bit101@mstdn.social

                        @mcc I was also a true devotee, but my grief ran its course more than a decade ago.

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                        #18

                        @mcc I can still get extremely nostalgic about it though.

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                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                          You don't use open source software because it's better (it usually isn't).

                          You don't use open source software because it's freer (it only sometimes is).

                          You don't use open source software because it's got better politics (it isn't always).

                          You use open source software because *it is the only option*. In the long run, if it isn't open source, it doesn't exist.

                          image source: keithstack.com

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                          #19

                          @mcc What... what does this announcement even MEAN.

                          You can keep using it... but you won't have access to your files? What are you TALKING about

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                          • waha_06x36@mastodon.socialW waha_06x36@mastodon.social

                            @mcc What... what does this announcement even MEAN.

                            You can keep using it... but you won't have access to your files? What are you TALKING about

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                            #20

                            @WAHa_06x36 Look more carefully at the dates. They are saying you may keep using it past the official discontinuation on 2026 March 1, but you CANNOT use it past 2027 March 1, so on that second date presumably you will lose access to your files.

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                            • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                              @WAHa_06x36 Look more carefully at the dates. They are saying you may keep using it past the official discontinuation on 2026 March 1, but you CANNOT use it past 2027 March 1, so on that second date presumably you will lose access to your files.

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                              #21

                              @mcc Oh. SIGH.

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                              • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                You don't use open source software because it's better (it usually isn't).

                                You don't use open source software because it's freer (it only sometimes is).

                                You don't use open source software because it's got better politics (it isn't always).

                                You use open source software because *it is the only option*. In the long run, if it isn't open source, it doesn't exist.

                                image source: keithstack.com

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                                #22

                                @mcc holy shit

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                                • lexfeathers@tenforward.socialL lexfeathers@tenforward.social

                                  @mcc holy shit

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                                  #23

                                  @lexfeathers Capitalism literally incompatible with software

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                                  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                    @lexfeathers Capitalism literally incompatible with software

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                                    #24

                                    @mcc Flash MX 2004 and Flash 8 are pieces of software permanently burned into my psyche, this is so sad

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                                    • lordcaramac@discordian.socialL lordcaramac@discordian.social

                                      @Lenni @RogerBW @mcc Already ahead of you, looking at the content right now. I'm a horrible dilettante of a coder though, I don't think I can fix it.

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                                      #25

                                      @LordCaramac
                                      You might want to look into running the software on an old linux version in a VM.

                                      Yes an old Linux is unsupported and probably full of security holes. Don't let the vm talk to the Internet and you should be fine.

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                                      • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                        You don't use open source software because it's better (it usually isn't).

                                        You don't use open source software because it's freer (it only sometimes is).

                                        You don't use open source software because it's got better politics (it isn't always).

                                        You use open source software because *it is the only option*. In the long run, if it isn't open source, it doesn't exist.

                                        image source: keithstack.com

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                                        #26

                                        @mcc Blender is better.

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                                        • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                                          As someone who was a true devotee of FutureWave SmartSketch (which became FutureSplash Animator, which became Macromedia Shockwave Flash, which became Adobe Flash, which became Adobe Animator) my sorrow is incalculable. Every day I long for software I had in the 90s which I can't find anything as good as today.

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                                          #27

                                          @mcc Hilarious to recount the history of Flash while not mentioning that one awful company, the one that also owned Director and FreeHand and DreamWeaver and, I dunno, Swivel 3D or something.

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