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  • jannem@fosstodon.orgJ jannem@fosstodon.org

    @qgustavor @fireborn @larozeppeli
    Please don't assume everybody shares the same concerns as you; here or elsewhere. There are plenty of Open Source people here, but also lots of people with no particular interest in it. OP has stated it's not open source at this point. Respect that and act accordingly. But please don't badger people about it.

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    fireborn@dragonscave.space
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    #112

    @jannem @qgustavor @larozeppeli It likely will be, once I clean it up and make the code nicer to read for sighted users. Another thing I didn't mention because I didn't want to make it sound like contributions aren't welcome, they are. While I don't mind feedback and feature requests, I'm one person with limitted time. I don't have the spoons to sit through triaging Merge requests, and so they would just sit there and that's no fun for anyone.

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    • aburka@hachyderm.ioA aburka@hachyderm.io

      @fireborn Pretty cool! Found a couple of bugs for your enjoyment:

      - in full screen landscape mode, the hide keyboard button doesn't work
      - inserting punctuation deletes the character before the cursor, even if it wasn't the automatically inserted space

      Pixel 7 Android 16

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      fireborn@dragonscave.space
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      #113

      @aburka Fixed in next version 🙂 Thank you for trying TapType

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      • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

        TapType is out. It's a keyboard for blind Android users.
        There are no visible keys. You tap where QWERTY keys would be from muscle memory, and a spatial prediction algorithm figures out what you meant. It scores nearby keys using a Gaussian proximity model and runs a beam search against an 80,000 word dictionary. You don't need to be precise. That's the whole point.
        Swipe right to commit a word. Swipe down or up to cycle through suggestions. Swipe left to delete. It learns what words you use most and ranks them higher over time, and you can add your own words to a personal dictionary.
        Every letter has its own unique sound, from Andre Louis's keyboard sound recordings, so you can learn to identify keys by ear without relying on speech. Each swipe direction has a distinct sound too. TTS is there when you want it, adjustable speed, and you can turn it off entirely if you prefer sounds only.
        It has emoji search with skin tone selection and favourites, a number pad mode, an upper case mode, and full punctuation support with a customizable quick list. Two-finger gestures handle things like send, close keyboard, switch keyboard, and voice input.
        Everything works with TalkBack. I built this because FlickType was a fantastic keyboard for blind iOS users and then it was gone. Nothing like it existed on Android, so I made one.
        It's free, no ads, no tracking, no metrics. I'm not evil.

        Edit: Now on 2.0 with multiple languages supported.

        If you find TapType useful, consider supporting its development:
        https://paypal.me/aaronhewitt
        https://github.com/sponsors/aaron-gh
        https://liberapay.com/fireborn/

        Download: https://github.com/aaron-gh/taptype-releases/releases/latest
        #TapType #Accessibility #A11y #Android #Blind #VisuallyImpaired #TalkBack #Keyboard #AssistiveTech

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        destranis@dragonscave.space
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        #114

        @fireborn Is there any chance this would work on Jieshuo? My friend is looking for such a keyboard for so a long time, but she's using Jieshuo.

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        • destranis@dragonscave.spaceD destranis@dragonscave.space

          @fireborn Is there any chance this would work on Jieshuo? My friend is looking for such a keyboard for so a long time, but she's using Jieshuo.

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          fireborn@dragonscave.space
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          #115

          @destranis It will, if they suspend browse by touch Or use a quick typing extention. Support would have to be added by The CSR developer

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          • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

            TapType is out. It's a keyboard for blind Android users.
            There are no visible keys. You tap where QWERTY keys would be from muscle memory, and a spatial prediction algorithm figures out what you meant. It scores nearby keys using a Gaussian proximity model and runs a beam search against an 80,000 word dictionary. You don't need to be precise. That's the whole point.
            Swipe right to commit a word. Swipe down or up to cycle through suggestions. Swipe left to delete. It learns what words you use most and ranks them higher over time, and you can add your own words to a personal dictionary.
            Every letter has its own unique sound, from Andre Louis's keyboard sound recordings, so you can learn to identify keys by ear without relying on speech. Each swipe direction has a distinct sound too. TTS is there when you want it, adjustable speed, and you can turn it off entirely if you prefer sounds only.
            It has emoji search with skin tone selection and favourites, a number pad mode, an upper case mode, and full punctuation support with a customizable quick list. Two-finger gestures handle things like send, close keyboard, switch keyboard, and voice input.
            Everything works with TalkBack. I built this because FlickType was a fantastic keyboard for blind iOS users and then it was gone. Nothing like it existed on Android, so I made one.
            It's free, no ads, no tracking, no metrics. I'm not evil.

            Edit: Now on 2.0 with multiple languages supported.

            If you find TapType useful, consider supporting its development:
            https://paypal.me/aaronhewitt
            https://github.com/sponsors/aaron-gh
            https://liberapay.com/fireborn/

            Download: https://github.com/aaron-gh/taptype-releases/releases/latest
            #TapType #Accessibility #A11y #Android #Blind #VisuallyImpaired #TalkBack #Keyboard #AssistiveTech

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            randomfelix@dragonscave.space
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            #116

            @fireborn is it possible to port this to QWERTZ? That is the German keyboard. I am willing to help you test. Have 2 pixel pros and a few other androids.

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            • R randomfelix@dragonscave.space

              @fireborn is it possible to port this to QWERTZ? That is the German keyboard. I am willing to help you test. Have 2 pixel pros and a few other androids.

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              fireborn@dragonscave.space
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              #117

              @randomfelix I imagine that a port to qwertz should b easy enough, will look into it.

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              • alexchapman@vee.seedy.ccA alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc

                @fireborn Yeah, although I do think there's other stuff you could do paid features on, a screen reader just seems kinda... Idk how to describe it, I've seen it all over, Jisuo, Jaws and Supernova on Windows, it just feels off.

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                #118

                @alexchapman @fireborn
                Are you volunteering to give the developer a living wage so he can donate the product of his labor while existing in our current society? Or do you really have the gall to demand he go into debt so you can have your app for free?

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                • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                  @jannem @qgustavor @larozeppeli It likely will be, once I clean it up and make the code nicer to read for sighted users. Another thing I didn't mention because I didn't want to make it sound like contributions aren't welcome, they are. While I don't mind feedback and feature requests, I'm one person with limitted time. I don't have the spoons to sit through triaging Merge requests, and so they would just sit there and that's no fun for anyone.

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                  qgustavor@urusai.social
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                  #119

                  @fireborn @jannem @larozeppeli
                  I wish I had lots of PRs in my projects. For me, often people just ask you to fix things but no one tries helping the issue. Sometimes they don't use the search and ask repeated things too.

                  But FOSS is a great thing. Last November a guy sent a PR and GitHub never notified me of it, then they sent me a message and I noticed it. It was a loveful PR, fixed an issue I had not noticed. I hope people will help you and you will have a great experience with it.

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                  • scallops@dice.campS scallops@dice.camp

                    @alexchapman @fireborn
                    Are you volunteering to give the developer a living wage so he can donate the product of his labor while existing in our current society? Or do you really have the gall to demand he go into debt so you can have your app for free?

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                    alexchapman@vee.seedy.cc
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                    #120

                    @scallops @fireborn That's not even the point, open source devs do get donations, it takes time.

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                    • qgustavor@urusai.socialQ qgustavor@urusai.social

                      @fireborn @jannem @larozeppeli
                      I wish I had lots of PRs in my projects. For me, often people just ask you to fix things but no one tries helping the issue. Sometimes they don't use the search and ask repeated things too.

                      But FOSS is a great thing. Last November a guy sent a PR and GitHub never notified me of it, then they sent me a message and I noticed it. It was a loveful PR, fixed an issue I had not noticed. I hope people will help you and you will have a great experience with it.

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                      fireborn@dragonscave.space
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                      #121

                      @qgustavor @jannem @larozeppeli I would love this if I actually had the time to review them. I don't.

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                      • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                        @qgustavor @jannem @larozeppeli I would love this if I actually had the time to review them. I don't.

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                        larozeppeli@plasmatrap.com
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                        #122

                        @fireborn@dragonscave.space @qgustavor@urusai.social @jannem@fosstodon.org definitely malware

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                        • larozeppeli@plasmatrap.comL larozeppeli@plasmatrap.com

                          @fireborn@dragonscave.space @qgustavor@urusai.social @jannem@fosstodon.org definitely malware

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                          fireborn@dragonscave.space
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                          #123

                          @larozeppeli @jannem @qgustavor I'd like to see some actual proof, rather than what you're currently doing. Which is a lot of nothing.

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                          • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                            @4censord I found it while trying to do this exact thing haha.

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                            4censord@unfug.social
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                            #124

                            @fireborn so I've just tested 1.2, and that made predictions much worse for me. While its more forgiving, it now usually takes me 1 or 2 "next prediction" swipes to get to the wanted word.

                            (I have not yet tested 2.0, but will do so next)

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                            • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                              @fireborn so I've just tested 1.2, and that made predictions much worse for me. While its more forgiving, it now usually takes me 1 or 2 "next prediction" swipes to get to the wanted word.

                              (I have not yet tested 2.0, but will do so next)

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                              fireborn@dragonscave.space
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                              #125

                              @4censord I rewrote the algorithm for version two

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                              • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                                @fireborn so I've just tested 1.2, and that made predictions much worse for me. While its more forgiving, it now usually takes me 1 or 2 "next prediction" swipes to get to the wanted word.

                                (I have not yet tested 2.0, but will do so next)

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                                4censord@unfug.social
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                                #126

                                @fireborn oh I see 2.0 has more languages, thank you so much!

                                Would it be possible to have an option to just add German to the prediction corpus, as opposed to having a separate keyboard (and layout)?

                                Also I see there is sponsors now, i'll throw some money your way later

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                                • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                                  @4censord I rewrote the algorithm for version two

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                                  4censord@unfug.social
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                                  #127

                                  @fireborn oki, testing that right now and it does feel better.
                                  thanks!

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                                  • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                                    @fireborn oh I see 2.0 has more languages, thank you so much!

                                    Would it be possible to have an option to just add German to the prediction corpus, as opposed to having a separate keyboard (and layout)?

                                    Also I see there is sponsors now, i'll throw some money your way later

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                                    fireborn@dragonscave.space
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                                    #128

                                    @4censord i tried it, and it made predictions super unreliable. I'm open to trying again, but I thought it more important to get individual support working so it was at least an option

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                                    • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                                      @fireborn oki, testing that right now and it does feel better.
                                      thanks!

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                                      fireborn@dragonscave.space
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                                      #129

                                      @4censord You're welcome

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                                      • F fireborn@dragonscave.space

                                        @4censord i tried it, and it made predictions super unreliable. I'm open to trying again, but I thought it more important to get individual support working so it was at least an option

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                                        4censord@unfug.social
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                                        #130

                                        @fireborn I see yeah. with my traditional keyboard it took quite a while to train it for both languages to not be annoying, so I can see that yeah.

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                                        • 4censord@unfug.social4 4censord@unfug.social

                                          @fireborn I see yeah. with my traditional keyboard it took quite a while to train it for both languages to not be annoying, so I can see that yeah.

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                                          fireborn@dragonscave.space
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                                          #131

                                          @4censord I'm also not a german or spanish speaker, so I wouldn't know how to weight the words in the prediction algorithmwhen weighing likelihood against english words, though I suspect that's very personal.

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