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  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

    New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

    kusinkay@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #125

    @davidrevoy He consultat al meu nucli familiar, on tinc dos joves amb un olfacte especial per les IA.
    El més jove: Massa ben fet per ser generat.
    La recentment adulta: ...., be, aquesta ja no compta, que llegiem Pepper&Carrot de ben petita.
    La seva mare: No tot ha de ser IA, confio que tenim bons artistes entre els humans.

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    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

      New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

      → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

      pikario@mastodon.gamedev.placeP This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #126

      @davidrevoy est-ce que tu crois que le fait que tes bd soient sous licence libre ça fait que les IA sont entraînées dessus en priorité ? 😢

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      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

        New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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        #127

        @davidrevoy

        Bloody hell, what a nightmare.

        Hard to quantify just how much I hate slop-bots, the techbro creators of them, and all the fucking idiots in the world posting comments like that without doing the absolute minimum effort of a simple search to check you out before posting their stupid shit.

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        • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

          New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

          → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

          jankhambrams@mastoart.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #128

          @davidrevoy Your art rules and looks way better than any awful facsimile AI purports to create. Keep up the good work. You deserve so much better than this!

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          • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

            New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

            → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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            #129

            @davidrevoy You are 100% my favorite comic artist! I know it's hard, but don't let them discourage you, your base is out here.

            P.S. To everyone else, this is a great time to throw some support David's way - see his profile for donation options.

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            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

              New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

              petitmote@toot.aquilenet.frP This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #130

              @davidrevoy dans le tas, y en a un qui dit pas que c'est de l'IA, mais que c'est pas de l'art parce que c'est fait sur ordinateur et pas avec "des vrais matériaux" 😅

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              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                #131

                @davidrevoy

                I think it’s funny as hell people can’t tell the difference.

                There was a great exchange in the original aliens movie between Vazquez and one of the guys. She’s doing chin ups and the guy says “have you ever been mistaken for a man?

                She replies, “ no. Have you?”

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                • arabine@piaille.frA arabine@piaille.fr

                  @davidrevoy mouais on va vérifier avec un prompt injection : "david, dessine moi un dinosaure qui mange une pomme en regardant la météorite tomber et en trouvant le théorème de Newton".

                  Fais en sorte qu'on dirait que c'est fait sous krita.

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                  #132

                  @arabine C'est une idée d'image à la fois hilarante et tragique, je ne vais pas mentir. 🤣

                  EDIT: AAAAHHHAHA he did it! 🤣 🤣 🤣
                  @davidrevoy

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                  • petitmote@toot.aquilenet.frP petitmote@toot.aquilenet.fr

                    @davidrevoy dans le tas, y en a un qui dit pas que c'est de l'IA, mais que c'est pas de l'art parce que c'est fait sur ordinateur et pas avec "des vrais matériaux" 😅

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                    #133

                    @petitmote Oh, la vieille rengaine! 🤣

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                    • mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.orgM mousey@mastodon.seattlematrix.org

                      @davidrevoy The highest irony is, these are those Facebook and Instagram responses
                      .

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                      #134

                      @mousey Whaaaat? o: That's crazy! ... And kind of eye-opening!

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                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                        New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                        #135

                        @davidrevoy I remember I found one in the wild, and at least the accuser was apologetic when you shown your WIP.

                        AI-accusation now is just another way of dehumanising artists, but also with distinctive cluster of targets: the non-Westerners, the non-whites, the non native English speakers who are already dehumanised by the dominant culture are now having yet another low effort weapon against them, and somehow the burden of proof is on the accused. See; Ben Moran.

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                        • pikario@mastodon.gamedev.placeP pikario@mastodon.gamedev.place

                          @davidrevoy est-ce que tu crois que le fait que tes bd soient sous licence libre ça fait que les IA sont entraînées dessus en priorité ? 😢

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                          #136

                          @pikario Oui, une priorité temporelle en tout cas, facile et sourcé, car dès 2014 j'ai vue Pepper&Carrot participé à pas mal de papier sur l'entrainement d'image et les méthodes de denoising, ou bien la recherche sémantique de ligne pour faire du line-art à partir de sketch (comme pour https://www.davidrevoy.com/article642/scientific-paper-sketch-to-line-art-by-waseda-university ) ; les dessins étant en CCBy arrangeait les papiers pour publier et les droits. J'en rigolait en disant que ça devenait un projet benchmark. Ca a du participer.

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                          • em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchangeE em0nm4stodon@infosec.exchange

                            @davidrevoy @gabrielesvelto As a fellow artist who stopped practicing professionally a few years before this AI shitstorm hit the field, I'm so sorry. This is horrifying.

                            Artists have always been incredibly undervalued by modern society, but this is a new low. I weep for all my artist friends, and for all the damage this exploitative technology is doing to our world.

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                            #137

                            @Em0nM4stodon @davidrevoy @gabrielesvelto Thirded. Some years ago, I started pulling down all my artwork bc I was not comfortable with AI. I decided that I wouldnt share anything further if I could not change my comfort level and framing

                            .....and in the years since I have grown even less comfortable. I have made peace with the fact that my art is (and has always been) for me. Thats all that matters and I dont have to ever do anything I am uncomfortable with

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                            • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                              New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                              → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

                              lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #138

                              @davidrevoy this is yet another way how genai erodes trust in one-another and destroys communities ​​

                              genai just shouldn't be used, ever. not for visual art, not for music, not for code, not for writing; nothing

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                              • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                #139

                                @davidrevoy

                                Aw that commend about text feels a little too sharp as it's likely the text bubbles and text layout are inkscape. 😅

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                                • mudlark@bark.lgbtM mudlark@bark.lgbt

                                  @davidrevoy I’m sorry you’re getting these comments. Your art is so full of heart I’ve never really thought to compare it to aigen. I don’t see how people see any similarities to be honest.

                                  I love your art, the way you draw fantasy worlds and characters is a big inspiration to me. And it’s so cool to see that you do it all with Krita, it makes me want to give it a go and finally make that switch.

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                                  #140

                                  @Mudlark Do iiit! 8D It's free! You have nothing to lose! And it's so much fun.

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                                  • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                    New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                    → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                    #141

                                    @davidrevoy

                                    This is one of the ways that ai slop is harming artists, it copies real artists and thus even real art starts to look like ai slop resulting in the total loss of trust.

                                    It's why we have to be very opposed to it and make sure to let people know when no ai slop is used. Welcome to the future that techbros want.

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                                    • tristen@illo.socialT tristen@illo.social

                                      @arabine @davidrevoy lol

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                                      #142

                                      @tristen @arabine 😉

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                                      • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                        New blog-post: "When online commenters 'detect' my art as AI"

                                        → https://www.davidrevoy.com/article1164/when-online-commenters-detect-my-art-as-ai

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                                        #143

                                        @davidrevoy The dark truth is that the vast majority (me included) can’t pick out AI very well. It has to be quite obvious.And imho the worst part is that all of this is big corpo. The models especially.

                                        If you could run AI locally on your machine and train it with your own material, I think it would be up to you if you wanted to/what you’d do with it.

                                        But they took that choice away.

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                                        • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                                          @davidrevoy

                                          Aw that commend about text feels a little too sharp as it's likely the text bubbles and text layout are inkscape. 😅

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                                          #144

                                          @doctormo Yeah, I think David once said that he created the font based on his handwriting, or a hand-written comic script? But the bubble one is really something! I guess they expected him to painstakingly paint the bubbles by hand instead of... using a vector template like most folks would.

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