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If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

    Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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    @randahl Gemini:

    "Elon Musk was at the center of a major controversy involving an alleged fascist gesture on **January 20, 2025**, during a rally celebrating Donald Trump’s second inauguration at the Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C.

    The incident sparked intense global debate over whether the movement was an intentional "Sieg Heil" or an awkward display of enthusiasm.

    ### The Incident
    While addressing the crowd, Musk performed a specific sequence: he tapped the left side of his chest with his right hand and then extended his arm upward with an open palm. He repeated this gesture twice, leading to immediate and polarizing reactions:

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    • lauteshirn@social.tchncs.deL lauteshirn@social.tchncs.de

      @randahl Gemini:

      "Elon Musk was at the center of a major controversy involving an alleged fascist gesture on **January 20, 2025**, during a rally celebrating Donald Trump’s second inauguration at the Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C.

      The incident sparked intense global debate over whether the movement was an intentional "Sieg Heil" or an awkward display of enthusiasm.

      ### The Incident
      While addressing the crowd, Musk performed a specific sequence: he tapped the left side of his chest with his right hand and then extended his arm upward with an open palm. He repeated this gesture twice, leading to immediate and polarizing reactions:

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      lauteshirn@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #13

      @randahl * **Critics and Historians:** Many experts, including NYU history professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, identified it as a Nazi or fascist "Roman salute." Critics argued the "from the heart to the sun" motion is a known variation used by far-right and neo-Nazi groups.
      * **The Far-Right:** Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups (such as the Blood Tribe and figures on Telegram) celebrated the gesture, interpreting it as a "White Power" signal and a clear nod to their movement.
      * **Musk’s Defense:** Musk dismissed the backlash on X (formerly Twitter), calling the accusations "dirty tricks" and claiming the "everyone is Hitler" attack was "sooo tired."

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      • lauteshirn@social.tchncs.deL lauteshirn@social.tchncs.de

        @randahl * **Critics and Historians:** Many experts, including NYU history professor Ruth Ben-Ghiat, identified it as a Nazi or fascist "Roman salute." Critics argued the "from the heart to the sun" motion is a known variation used by far-right and neo-Nazi groups.
        * **The Far-Right:** Neo-Nazi and white supremacist groups (such as the Blood Tribe and figures on Telegram) celebrated the gesture, interpreting it as a "White Power" signal and a clear nod to their movement.
        * **Musk’s Defense:** Musk dismissed the backlash on X (formerly Twitter), calling the accusations "dirty tricks" and claiming the "everyone is Hitler" attack was "sooo tired."

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        #14

        @randahl * **Supporters:** Supporters and some organizations, like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), initially defended him, suggesting it was an "awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" rather than a hateful symbol. Others attributed the stiff movement to his self-diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome.

        ### Consequences
        The event had significant diplomatic and legal ripples:
        * **Germany:** Because the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in Germany, the gesture led to calls from European politicians to ban Musk from the country and sparked protests at the Tesla Gigafactory near Berlin.

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        • lauteshirn@social.tchncs.deL lauteshirn@social.tchncs.de

          @randahl * **Supporters:** Supporters and some organizations, like the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), initially defended him, suggesting it was an "awkward gesture in a moment of enthusiasm" rather than a hateful symbol. Others attributed the stiff movement to his self-diagnosis of Asperger’s syndrome.

          ### Consequences
          The event had significant diplomatic and legal ripples:
          * **Germany:** Because the Nazi salute is a criminal offense in Germany, the gesture led to calls from European politicians to ban Musk from the country and sparked protests at the Tesla Gigafactory near Berlin.

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          #15

          @randahl
          * **Public Opinion:** A YouGov survey conducted shortly after showed the public was split; roughly **42%** of Americans viewed it as a Nazi or Roman salute, while another **42%** viewed it as a harmless "gesture from the heart."

          The controversy was further fueled by Musk’s subsequent posts on X, where he made puns using the names of high-ranking Nazi officials (e.g., "His pronouns would've been He/Himmler"), which many viewed as a mocking "double down" on the original incident.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

            Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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            #16

            @randahl

            These systems are not reliable .

            To the question ‘what is a nazi ´ , ChatGPT gives this answer

            —- A Nazi originally referred to a member or समर्थer of the Nazi Party

            I don’t even try to understand what a समर्थer is .

            Another hallucination

            #ia

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

              Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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              #17

              @randahl Huh?

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                #18

                @randahl The best thing to do here is just not use these AI slop/hallucination machines. I've never used them. I'll never pay for them.

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                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                  If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                  Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                  #19

                  @randahl He did it twice, in case any cameras missed the first one. WTF is this robot talking about? We all saw it happen live.

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                    #20

                    @1sxteenthDANE @randahl @pluralistic
                    This is why the "firemen" will be needed to burn all the books. Only the robot memory can be trusted.

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                    • troed@masto.sangberg.seT troed@masto.sangberg.se

                      @randahl Mistral AI (Le Chat):

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                      #21

                      @troed @randahl the French call a Nazi a Nazi when they see one

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                        Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                        @randahl Mistral would beg to differ! 😂

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                          Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                          #23

                          @randahl

                          Does this verify from other IP geolocation?

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                          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                            If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                            Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                            #24

                            @randahl

                            In Perplexity you can choose which LLM is used and the answers referenced all Wikipedia as the main source.

                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elon_Musk_salute_controversy

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              If you want to know whether your AI system is accurate, I recommend this question: "When did Elon Musk heil in public?"

                              Source criticism and information verification must be a prioritised school subject in every democratic country.

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                              @randahl All the “credible” news sources it says. Would those sources be owned by billionaire sycophants who are all his buddies? Hm-m-m🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

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