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Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

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  • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

    @kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
    A Credit Union In the USA for anyone anywhere that's not American and not living in the USA? Are you demented?

    There are of course Credit Unions in Ireland. Yes, you can lodge money and get loans. They are not suitable for my use case.
    The Irish An Post (State Post Office) has banking but they discontinued any access on the Web site and also required quite recent versions of Android (or iOS), several years ago.

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    #242

    @raymaccarthy @utf_7 @grote

    Yes yes I am.

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    • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

      Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

      * enable developer options
      * confirm that you are not tricked
      * restart phone and re-authenticate
      * wait one day
      * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
      * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
      * confirm that you accept the risks
      * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

      https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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      #243

      @grote

      Honestly If this didn't have the 24 hour period I wouldn't mind much, but fuck is that going to be annoying

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      • luatic@mastodon.socialL luatic@mastodon.social

        @grote wow. for a second i thought this was satire, but then i clicked on the link and it's literally as you say.

        why do i have a feeling this is not really about security?

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        #244

        @luatic @grote Come on now, this *only* makes sense as a security measure. It doesn't make sense as a way to lock down the phone totally, because then they could just... lock down the phone totally.

        It absolutely makes sense as a response to the attack vector of tricking someone into installing malware by telling them to turn on developer mode, though.

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        • chand_v_post@mastodon.socialC chand_v_post@mastodon.social

          @grote Wow that is so hard.
          I can feel the issue of avoiding people being tricked but with them I have some doubts.
          Also why do I need to use biometrics?

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          #245

          @chand_v_post @grote That seems to just be shorthand for "unlock your device", since that is usually done with biometrics.

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          • alextecplayz@techhub.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #246

            @ziclaud oh god HyperOS, that one is a nightmare to try and unlock compared to MIUI. My condolences.

            You need a 30-day old Mi Account, the Xiaomi Community App and have a Global device. CN devices running HyperOS can't be unlocked anymore, because phone unlocking is illegal in mainland China since 2022 when the government passed a decision to outlaw it.

            And with it is the "quota reached" bug that requires you to apply for unlocking at midnight Beijing time. Hell, now you have to run some Python script or whatever, from a brief look through XDA Forums.

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            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

              * enable developer options
              * confirm that you are not tricked
              * restart phone and re-authenticate
              * wait one day
              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
              * confirm that you accept the risks
              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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              #247

              @grote What the fuck

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              • oatrapado@mastodon.socialO oatrapado@mastodon.social

                @Frenezul0_o @grote those chinese/european phones are just obsolete and overprized, pinephone another archeological piece at a high price.

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                #248

                @oatrapado
                Let's be fair its a pocket tablet that can also make phone calls, and the calls are often not the primary purpose any longer
                @Frenezul0_o @grote

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                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                  * enable developer options
                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                  * wait one day
                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                  #249

                  @grote how long before banking apps refuse to run with app freedom ("side loading") enabled.

                  #android

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                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                    * enable developer options
                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                    * wait one day
                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                    #250

                    @grote Mum gets scammed A LOT and solely from apps in the Google Play Store. Like Facebook. Sideloaded apps is the least of our problems.

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                    • lexyeen@plush.cityL lexyeen@plush.city

                      @grote remember, kids: "sideloading" is just "installing software that isn't on the app store." the corpos are just calling it "sideloading" because it sounds shadier.

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                      #251

                      @LexYeen @grote
                      As bad as the USA car industry creating "jaywalking" as an imaginary crime in order to sell more cars. (Not a crime anywhere else)

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                      • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                        @Li @grote

                        funnily at the moment it isn't. There have been some leaks as in some instances they "forget" to wipe it after use.

                        Edit: But yea, they'd probably get it signed through governmental pressure in the end either way...

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                        #252

                        @agowa338
                        If only there were a technology that let's you use your own root of trust
                        @Li @grote

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                        • nobody@mastodon.acm.orgN nobody@mastodon.acm.org

                          @agowa338
                          If only there were a technology that let's you use your own root of trust
                          @Li @grote

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                          #253

                          @nobody @agowa338 @grote hah its the thing i said https://tech.lgbt/@Li/116257681293741665

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                          • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                            Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                            * enable developer options
                            * confirm that you are not tricked
                            * restart phone and re-authenticate
                            * wait one day
                            * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                            * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                            * confirm that you accept the risks
                            * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                            https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                            #254

                            @grote how will integrate any non-android enterprise mdm base? Direct push apk it is a must.

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                            • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                              Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                              * enable developer options
                              * confirm that you are not tricked
                              * restart phone and re-authenticate
                              * wait one day
                              * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                              * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                              * confirm that you accept the risks
                              * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                              https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                              #255

                              @grote aaaaaaa ,, this type of flow would be great for something that's extremely frequently abused by scammers and is only rarely used legitimately, but sideloading apps is way too common and useful for this type of flow to be justifiable for any stated reason they have (and of course, we all know what the real reason is)

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                              • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                * enable developer options
                                * confirm that you are not tricked
                                * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                * wait one day
                                * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                * confirm that you accept the risks
                                * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                #256

                                @grote I hate phones!

                                Somebody make a one newer than 2018 that is compatible with #postmarketos please!!!!

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                                • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                  Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                  * enable developer options
                                  * confirm that you are not tricked
                                  * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                  * wait one day
                                  * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                  * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                  * confirm that you accept the risks
                                  * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                  https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                  #257

                                  @grote https://clip.cafe/the-man-with-two-brains-1983/goddamn-drunk-tests-are-hard/

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                                  • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                    Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                    * enable developer options
                                    * confirm that you are not tricked
                                    * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                    * wait one day
                                    * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                    * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                    * confirm that you accept the risks
                                    * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                    https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                    #258

                                    @grote what a fucking joke.

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                                    • hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH hellomiakoda@pdx.social

                                      @lumi @grote This is why I put up with constant issues to carry a Linux phone.
                                      Microsoft and Google are the best at convincing me to be patient with #Linux.

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                                      #259

                                      @hellomiakoda @lumi @grote furiphone looking mighty good more and more

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                                      • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

                                        @tedmielczarek @grote No, it was a real job I had at a real company. I just wondered whether people would still be able to do that.

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                                        #260

                                        @TimWardCam @tedmielczarek @grote Looks to me like you'd disable this silly stuff on all the phones you manage and call it good...you're just back to the situation as it exists.

                                        The real pain here is that people install fdroid from the play store thinking they can then install apps but they won't be able to without "disabling security". Other than that it seems like it's a one time annoyance -- less than if you just load lineage or something to begin with.

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                                        • grote@chaos.socialG grote@chaos.social

                                          Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

                                          * enable developer options
                                          * confirm that you are not tricked
                                          * restart phone and re-authenticate
                                          * wait one day
                                          * confirm with biometrics that you know what you are doing
                                          * decide if you only want unrestricted installs for 1 week or forever
                                          * confirm that you accept the risks
                                          * enjoy the few apps that still have developers motivated to develop for a user-base willing to put up with this

                                          https://goo.gle/advance-flow

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                                          #261

                                          @grote Eh, not a fan of giving Google biometrics. The 1 day wait is kinda -- petty, but OK -- the rest I sorta expected.

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