Google has news on what you will need to do for still being able to sideload apps:

[kevinrns@mstdn.social]

@raymaccarthy @utf_7 @grote

Lenovo is pushing back hard on locked in software, selling ThinkPads cheaper if they install linux, their phone division is partnering with a non google non apple OS.

There are avenues and partners, and when Trump is gone let's break up the tech bros monopolizers into very small competing companies. Very small.

Its a BIG fight, its not just phones, its not just the US.

Support, discuss, ORGANIZE.

[bussphomet@app.wafrn.net]

Yeah fuck this

Time to get a furi or jolla phone

[resuna@ohai.social]

@Umbreon @LexYeen @grote

Buttloading from the butt store.

[goss@c.im]

In the long term Alphabet are going to kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

I note that Canadian company Graphene has announced a partnership with Motorola. For clarification, it appears at this stage these Motorola phones will be developed in partnership with Graphene, shipping with Android but fully Graphene ready.

If these are good (Motorola make good hardware) I will set up a biz to obtain commercial quantities of these and beginning offering them for sale already flashed with Graphene.

Things are getting so bad even non nerd boomers are coming to me expressing concern about relying on bug tech of the former US and asking me for advice so there is a market for 'clean' devices.

Anyway, back to my point, once more privacy respecting alternatives are commercially available Android will lose ground and the rivers of gold of AD revenue begin drying up in the same way Windows 11 is prompting an exodus to Linux.

[resuna@ohai.social]

@luatic @grote

whose security is it about?

[resuna@ohai.social]

@jake4480 @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57

No, you can use a device PIN.

[stellafoxxie@oldbytes.space]

@reallylazybear i've done it too. it's not really hard. it just requires at least 4 hours of work and the last time i did it i ended up with a phone that my sim card would not function in so it ended up being a complete failure

[jake4480@c.im]

@resuna @grote @fistfulofdave @wendigo @gavin57 oh good, that's a relief

[grote@chaos.social]

@jernej Right, but I am more worried about the unverified developer community and @fdroidorg

Who will still develop for the handful of power users going through this flow?

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@kevinrns @utf_7 @grote
A Credit Union In the USA for anyone anywhere that's not American and not living in the USA? Are you demented?

There are of course Credit Unions in Ireland. Yes, you can lodge money and get loans. They are not suitable for my use case.
The Irish An Post (State Post Office) has banking but they discontinued any access on the Web site and also required quite recent versions of Android (or iOS), several years ago.

[thornbill@fosstodon.org]

@Kdude @grote it’s already a ridiculous amount of hoops

[gizmonicus@defcon.social]

@grote I was literally just thinking about how it frequently seems like Google does things under the guise of "security hardening" that also just happens to have the convenient side effect of further locking users into their ecosystem.

[kevinrns@mstdn.social]

@raymaccarthy @utf_7 @grote

Yes yes I am.

[elkaki@mastodon.online]

@grote

Honestly If this didn't have the 24 hour period I wouldn't mind much, but fuck is that going to be annoying

[waha_06x36@mastodon.social]

@luatic @grote Come on now, this *only* makes sense as a security measure. It doesn't make sense as a way to lock down the phone totally, because then they could just... lock down the phone totally.

It absolutely makes sense as a response to the attack vector of tricking someone into installing malware by telling them to turn on developer mode, though.

[waha_06x36@mastodon.social]

@chand_v_post @grote That seems to just be shorthand for "unlock your device", since that is usually done with biometrics.

[alextecplayz@techhub.social]

@ziclaud oh god HyperOS, that one is a nightmare to try and unlock compared to MIUI. My condolences.

You need a 30-day old Mi Account, the Xiaomi Community App and have a Global device. CN devices running HyperOS can't be unlocked anymore, because phone unlocking is illegal in mainland China since 2022 when the government passed a decision to outlaw it.

And with it is the "quota reached" bug that requires you to apply for unlocking at midnight Beijing time. Hell, now you have to run some Python script or whatever, from a brief look through XDA Forums.

[zeldathebunny@girlcock.club]

@grote What the fuck

[thomasdorr@mastodon.social]

@oatrapado
Let's be fair its a pocket tablet that can also make phone calls, and the calls are often not the primary purpose any longer
@Frenezul0_o @grote

[idiot@mastodonapp.uk]

@grote how long before banking apps refuse to run with app freedom ("side loading") enabled.

#android