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  • rubbel@snabelen.noR rubbel@snabelen.no

    @mihamarkic @joacim @randahl There were no charging points in Norway when we started the EV adoption either. You need to organize if you want change. Put pressure on landlords and politicians. Change will come.

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    #19

    @rubbel @mihamarkic @randahl Yeah well there's not enough power grid to feed our condominium area at the moment. That will probably fix itself in a few years but I will probably have moved away by then.

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    • eetschrijver@mastodon.socialE eetschrijver@mastodon.social

      @randahl One'd have to be stark crazy to spend money on internal combustion in this day and age.
      Too many people still are.

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      #20

      @Eetschrijver I suppose you have the luxury to charge your car at your house? Here in #Amsterdam infrastructure for electric cars runs far behind and the network in the #Netherlands has serious capacity problems. The individual choice isn't as simple as it seems here in particular if you need an invalid parking spot. I refuse to be called "stark crazy" for a choice I didn't have. @randahl

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      • saarmuller@mastodon.socialS saarmuller@mastodon.social

        @Eetschrijver I suppose you have the luxury to charge your car at your house? Here in #Amsterdam infrastructure for electric cars runs far behind and the network in the #Netherlands has serious capacity problems. The individual choice isn't as simple as it seems here in particular if you need an invalid parking spot. I refuse to be called "stark crazy" for a choice I didn't have. @randahl

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        #21

        @saarmuller @Eetschrijver @randahl
        👍

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        • saarmuller@mastodon.socialS saarmuller@mastodon.social

          @Eetschrijver I suppose you have the luxury to charge your car at your house? Here in #Amsterdam infrastructure for electric cars runs far behind and the network in the #Netherlands has serious capacity problems. The individual choice isn't as simple as it seems here in particular if you need an invalid parking spot. I refuse to be called "stark crazy" for a choice I didn't have. @randahl

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          #22

          @saarmuller @Eetschrijver @randahl

          This *is* an important point… every place that a car can be parked for a length of time should be capable of slow charging that car, because mostly cars just sit and slow charging is the most energy and cost efficient way to charge them.

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          • fruitknife@mastodon.socialF fruitknife@mastodon.social

            @randahl That's awesome! Here in Germany we don't even make it to 25% sadly...

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            #23

            @Fruitknife @randahl

            Canada … 11.2% 😞

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            • mihamarkic@mastodon.socialM mihamarkic@mastodon.social

              @joacim @randahl 10%? That's huge relative to Slovenia where it sits around 0 give or take. And this is indeed one of the requirements for massive EV adoption which is pretty much ignored.

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              #24

              @mihamarkic
              Dunno how the roads are around your place, but you can charge an e-bike at home and it will replace some of your car trips. But you probably thought about that 😃

              I'm just a little excited about the possibilities of the fossil car to e-bike transition 😄
              @joacim @randahl

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              • mihamarkic@mastodon.socialM mihamarkic@mastodon.social

                @rubbel @joacim @randahl A little like chicken and egg situation.

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                #25

                @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                there's a new thing in #China where you drive up, a machine swaps out your dead batteries for fresh ones, and on you drive

                less time than it takes to fill your car up with gas at a pump

                kind of like how we swap empty for full propane tanks for our backyard grill

                this could be the way forward

                it even saves gas stations from extinction

                range and charging time/ availability is the big problem with #EV

                this idea solves that problem

                https://www.npr.org/2026/04/18/nx-s1-5788990/ev-battery-charge-long-china-nio

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                • cauzation@mastodon.socialC cauzation@mastodon.social

                  @randahl Please place ultimate responsibility on the roots: #FossilFuels leaders, who buy-off politicians, religious leaders, and royal families, in oppressing the people.

                  Until a #TippingPoint of concentrated momentum is accurately heaped upon those most guilty, the weight will continue to cause more and more pain and suffering, for those least culpable.

                  #ScalesOfJustice for #sustainability

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                  #26

                  @cauZation @randahl

                  right but there's blame placing, and solving the problem

                  i am not saying we should not seek justice

                  but i am saying we should not stand in the way of solving the problem in our desire for justice

                  we should do both

                  solve the problem, and apportion proper blame

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                    there's a new thing in #China where you drive up, a machine swaps out your dead batteries for fresh ones, and on you drive

                    less time than it takes to fill your car up with gas at a pump

                    kind of like how we swap empty for full propane tanks for our backyard grill

                    this could be the way forward

                    it even saves gas stations from extinction

                    range and charging time/ availability is the big problem with #EV

                    this idea solves that problem

                    https://www.npr.org/2026/04/18/nx-s1-5788990/ev-battery-charge-long-china-nio

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                    #27

                    @benroyce @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                    This is especially useful for electric scooters with little batteries you can just pop in and out.

                    Eg https://www.gogoro.com/gogoro-network/

                    You can set up the chargers with their own solar panels too.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      First quarter electric car market share by year in Denmark:

                      2024: 41 percent
                      2025: 66 percent
                      2026: 80 percent

                      This is Middle Eastern dictators losing their power year by year.

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                      #28

                      @randahl Well done, Danes!

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                        there's a new thing in #China where you drive up, a machine swaps out your dead batteries for fresh ones, and on you drive

                        less time than it takes to fill your car up with gas at a pump

                        kind of like how we swap empty for full propane tanks for our backyard grill

                        this could be the way forward

                        it even saves gas stations from extinction

                        range and charging time/ availability is the big problem with #EV

                        this idea solves that problem

                        https://www.npr.org/2026/04/18/nx-s1-5788990/ev-battery-charge-long-china-nio

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                        #29

                        @benroyce @rubbel @joacim @randahl This tech appears here and there but so far it doesn't stick since car manufacturers prefer integrated non removable battery. AFAIK even Tesla tried this way only to forget about it soon after. It'd require battery standardization if nothing else, but there is zero will 🤷

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                        • mihamarkic@mastodon.socialM mihamarkic@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce @rubbel @joacim @randahl This tech appears here and there but so far it doesn't stick since car manufacturers prefer integrated non removable battery. AFAIK even Tesla tried this way only to forget about it soon after. It'd require battery standardization if nothing else, but there is zero will 🤷

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                          #30

                          @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                          correct, zero will now

                          but the kind of thing that could grow some will

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                            there's a new thing in #China where you drive up, a machine swaps out your dead batteries for fresh ones, and on you drive

                            less time than it takes to fill your car up with gas at a pump

                            kind of like how we swap empty for full propane tanks for our backyard grill

                            this could be the way forward

                            it even saves gas stations from extinction

                            range and charging time/ availability is the big problem with #EV

                            this idea solves that problem

                            https://www.npr.org/2026/04/18/nx-s1-5788990/ev-battery-charge-long-china-nio

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                            #31

                            @benroyce @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl I’m a fan of anything that convinces people to move away from gas vehicles.

                            That said, there’s a huge misunderstanding about how to make EVs convenient. People need to stop thinking of EVs as cars that fill slowly, and understand that they are cars that fill up passively. Anytime in EV is parked it can charge. THAT is the real convenience. These are cars that can use a regular outlet to just be full ALWAYS.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                              there's a new thing in #China where you drive up, a machine swaps out your dead batteries for fresh ones, and on you drive

                              less time than it takes to fill your car up with gas at a pump

                              kind of like how we swap empty for full propane tanks for our backyard grill

                              this could be the way forward

                              it even saves gas stations from extinction

                              range and charging time/ availability is the big problem with #EV

                              this idea solves that problem

                              https://www.npr.org/2026/04/18/nx-s1-5788990/ev-battery-charge-long-china-nio

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                              #32

                              @benroyce
                              the idea and prototypes by Peugot, Renault in France is not new. And in China it isn't new either.
                              @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                                there's a new thing in #China where you drive up, a machine swaps out your dead batteries for fresh ones, and on you drive

                                less time than it takes to fill your car up with gas at a pump

                                kind of like how we swap empty for full propane tanks for our backyard grill

                                this could be the way forward

                                it even saves gas stations from extinction

                                range and charging time/ availability is the big problem with #EV

                                this idea solves that problem

                                https://www.npr.org/2026/04/18/nx-s1-5788990/ev-battery-charge-long-china-nio

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                                #33

                                @benroyce

                                This stuff is patented (see https://patents.google.com/patent/US12187155B2/en and https://patents.google.com/patent/US8164300B2/en?oq=US8164300B2) but there are others as well. Tesla refused to license the patent(s) and so for the initial growth of EVs this wouldn't happen. In China they are more competitive and this area has recently seen a lot of innovation.

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                                • theejj@mastodon.socialT theejj@mastodon.social

                                  @benroyce @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl I’m a fan of anything that convinces people to move away from gas vehicles.

                                  That said, there’s a huge misunderstanding about how to make EVs convenient. People need to stop thinking of EVs as cars that fill slowly, and understand that they are cars that fill up passively. Anytime in EV is parked it can charge. THAT is the real convenience. These are cars that can use a regular outlet to just be full ALWAYS.

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                                  #34

                                  @TheEjj @benroyce @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                                  Which means workplaces like INCO (now Vale) in Sudbury that have outlets for block heaters in the winter can allow their use for slow EV charging all year round.

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                                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                    @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                                    there's a new thing in #China where you drive up, a machine swaps out your dead batteries for fresh ones, and on you drive

                                    less time than it takes to fill your car up with gas at a pump

                                    kind of like how we swap empty for full propane tanks for our backyard grill

                                    this could be the way forward

                                    it even saves gas stations from extinction

                                    range and charging time/ availability is the big problem with #EV

                                    this idea solves that problem

                                    https://www.npr.org/2026/04/18/nx-s1-5788990/ev-battery-charge-long-china-nio

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                                    #35

                                    @benroyce not really new, look it up on wiki (1896!). The thing is: battery life is an issue for many car owners. With swapping you might get a less healthy battery in return, or perhaps you don’t own it. So it makes you dependent on a company (whereas EV driving makes you less dependent overall, as you can charge at home)
                                    @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

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                                    • cejjacobs@mastodon.socialC cejjacobs@mastodon.social

                                      @benroyce not really new, look it up on wiki (1896!). The thing is: battery life is an issue for many car owners. With swapping you might get a less healthy battery in return, or perhaps you don’t own it. So it makes you dependent on a company (whereas EV driving makes you less dependent overall, as you can charge at home)
                                      @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

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                                      #36

                                      @cejjacobs @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                                      why not both?

                                      the battery swap just for long drives/ time sensitive/ people who live where they can't charge easily

                                      otherwise, you can swap batteries, and charge from home

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @cejjacobs @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

                                        why not both?

                                        the battery swap just for long drives/ time sensitive/ people who live where they can't charge easily

                                        otherwise, you can swap batteries, and charge from home

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                                        #37

                                        @benroyce fast charging is improving every year, but even on “slow speed” (50-150kW), you’re charging faster than you can use the loo and drink a coffee. And it’s good to take some rest on long journeys! (There is a limit on what truck drivers may drive with a reason!)

                                        Besides, on longer trips you try to only charge what’s needed, no use in arriving with more than a few percent in your battery 😇

                                        @mihamarkic @rubbel @joacim @randahl

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                                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                          First quarter electric car market share by year in Denmark:

                                          2024: 41 percent
                                          2025: 66 percent
                                          2026: 80 percent

                                          This is Middle Eastern dictators losing their power year by year.

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                                          @randahl have you considered asking your Mastodon admins to moderate signups so people can't use your server for spam?

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