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#CrossBorderRail #LongestTrainEU Record Attempt Train 4 of 18R 741515:40 Umeå Östra - Sundsvall C 18:39Norrtåg

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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    @grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.

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    #191

    @jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.

    Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.

    @Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong 🙂

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      @moof @lobingera In a web browser on Mac

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      #192

      @jon @moof @lobingera They seem to have added this sidebar thingy with options to the web version just a few days ago

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      • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

        @jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.

        Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.

        @Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong 🙂

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        #193

        @stefanlindbohm @grlodi @sebwilken @Jonas_Bostrom Yes, there were plenty of WL4 in the composition! (I was in one!)

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        • timwardcam@c.imT timwardcam@c.im

          @mjr @jon I should have credited:

          The late Colin Rosenstiel regularly used it about bus services - I don't know whether he invented it.

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          #194

          @TimWardCam @jon ah, yes, let's credit Colin Rosenstiel when it's due.

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          • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

            @jon @grlodi @sebwilken AFAIK, the only still-running Swedish night train rolling stock that has ever had approvals outside of Sweden are the BC2K and BC2DE couchettes. Only a few of them exist and I’m sure they don’t have DK approval anymore.

            Meanwhile Malmö - Stockholm is mostly a business traveler product often running with more WL4 (first class sleeper) than any other type of carriage.

            @Jonas_Bostrom please correct me where I’m wrong 🙂

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            #195

            @stefanlindbohm Outside Sweden and Norway, but apart from that correct AFAIK. As long as we don't count the ones that have been bought/leased recently by SJ and Snälltåget. @jon @grlodi @sebwilken

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              @grlodi @sebwilken Loads of SJ's night train carriages lack approval for anywhere other than Sweden. And there might be loading gauge issues too.

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              #196

              @jon Yes, the 1980s generation of carriages (BC4, WL4, WL6 and more) were built to take advantage of the larger Swedish loading gauge. While the Öresund bridge and tunnel has a large loading gauge, it would probably require a bit of work to be able to run them all the way to Hovedbanegården.

              The carriages also lack emergency brake override required across Öresund and are only built for 1,000 V 16 2⁄3 Hz power. @grlodi @sebwilken

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight

                How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon

                Ah no

                The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬

                Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!

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                #197

                @jon

                Train to Genève, there's song for that

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_RP0g_44_-M

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight

                  How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon

                  Ah no

                  The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬

                  Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!

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                  #198

                  So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                    #199

                    @jon @Pepijn awesome

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                      #200

                      @jon @Pepijn

                      Thanks for the photo. I've know Rick Minnich for some 30+ years, when he was still at film school. From working with him on film festivals and our exchanges throughout the years I have the impression that he would make a good travel companion for this crazy trip!
                      And he also is a documentary director and not just a camera operator.

                      All the best for the next legs of the trip!

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                      • oskarimkeller@fnordon.deO oskarimkeller@fnordon.de

                        @jon @Pepijn

                        Thanks for the photo. I've know Rick Minnich for some 30+ years, when he was still at film school. From working with him on film festivals and our exchanges throughout the years I have the impression that he would make a good travel companion for this crazy trip!
                        And he also is a documentary director and not just a camera operator.

                        All the best for the next legs of the trip!

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                        #201

                        @OskarImKeller Ah, small world. He is a great guy to work with... and the next week we will have the first film out! @Pepijn

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @OskarImKeller Ah, small world. He is a great guy to work with... and the next week we will have the first film out! @Pepijn

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                          #202

                          @jon @Pepijn
                          Cool - you already have plenty of drama for a little short doc series it seems. And you haven't even reached France yet!

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                            #203

                            @jon @Pepijn I'm curious to know if this adds any planning and logistical challenges to have someone following you, since in all your previous cross-border adventures you only had to book seats, couchettes and hotels for yourself. Is he allowed to cheat and use alternative forms of transportation?

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                            • oskarimkeller@fnordon.deO oskarimkeller@fnordon.de

                              @jon @Pepijn
                              Cool - you already have plenty of drama for a little short doc series it seems. And you haven't even reached France yet!

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                              #204

                              @jon @Pepijn
                              Maybe you can convince Rick to join the Fediverse - it would be nice to find more film people here!

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                So I wondered... as #LongestTrainEU is now amazingly ahead of schedule, could I get *further* than Genève tonight

                                How about a, say, 19:00 TGV Strasbourg - Lyon

                                Ah no

                                The last train between France's 8th and 2nd cities goes at... 16:15 🤬🤬🤬🤬

                                Going to Genève makes pretty much no sense, geographically, but the Swiss do actually like running trains. The French, not so much!

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                                #205

                                @jon I bet they'll say putting more trains isn't worth it until the LGV Rhin-Rhône is completed, and completing the LGV isn't worth it until there are enough passengers on the line. 🔄

                                Why start somewhere and choose the virtuous circle when you can just glide into the vicious circle instead? 🤡

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  @RensBloom Nope. Different Paris terminals. Not allowed. RER is not Single European Rail Area.

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                                  #206

                                  @jon @RensBloom The Austerlitz to Tolosa night service also picks up passengers tonight in Orleans at 23:33

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                                  • raphv@social.edu.nlR raphv@social.edu.nl

                                    @jon @Pepijn I'm curious to know if this adds any planning and logistical challenges to have someone following you, since in all your previous cross-border adventures you only had to book seats, couchettes and hotels for yourself. Is he allowed to cheat and use alternative forms of transportation?

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                                    #207

                                    @raphv @Pepijn He's not cheating - he's taking the same trains as me. And for night trains adding a second person is easy. The only headache was really with SNCF reservations, where there was no way to end up being sat together as I didn't book everything together.

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                                    • amymagdalena@lgbtqia.spaceA amymagdalena@lgbtqia.space

                                      @jon @RensBloom The Austerlitz to Tolosa night service also picks up passengers tonight in Orleans at 23:33

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                                      #208

                                      @amymagdalena @RensBloom And do tell me how to get to Orleans from Mannheim by then 😄

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        So Rick Minnich (the cameraman following me) and I were still smiling at Padborg! Thanks @Pepijn for the pic! #LongestTrainEU

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                                        #209

                                        And I am on a Siemens built ICE4 (enough of the rattling and broken toilet Talgo shit, and the shaky Alstom shit) and it is perfect. Quiet, smooth, comfortable. This is how this trip *should* be! #LongestTrainEU

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          @amymagdalena @RensBloom And do tell me how to get to Orleans from Mannheim by then 😄

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                                          #210

                                          @jon @RensBloom Teleportation apparently

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