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  3. Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

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  • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

    Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

    https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support

    Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.

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    #19

    @GrapheneOS
    I think you might have answered this before, but is there any way to make your OS look different to applications to circumvent the ban?

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    • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

      Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

      https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support

      Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.

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      #20

      @GrapheneOS oh snap thanks for sharing! This is literally the rain I stopped using custom ROMs for a few years

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        #21

        @skyblitz @GrapheneOS

        Spotify isn't blocked or anything, but I just don't exactly know what it is.

        This windows shows up the moment I hit play.

        Lately, I've been thinking about deleting Spotify and use NextCloud music instead.

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        • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

          Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

          https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support

          Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.

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          #22

          @GrapheneOS they lost a potential customer.

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          • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

            GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.

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            #23

            @GrapheneOS
            Yes! GrapheneOS is great! The Team behind it too... But it is good to mention, that it is AOSP based... And AOSP code is not just 15 people work.
            Simmilar to OxygenOS or NothingOS. It is more like distribution than the separate OS. Realy good, polished and hardened distribution of Android.
            GrapheneOS, OnePlus or Nothing are still havy based on AOSP and the changes/patches that are for all Android OS'es and that are not a result of only 15 people work.
            P. S. I apriciate your work!

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            • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

              GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.

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              #24

              @GrapheneOS Done ✅

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              • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                GrapheneOS is production quality OS from a non-profit paying around 15 people to work on it. It's far more secure than anything supported by the Play Integrity API. We have an official partnership with Motorola and we'll have more. Just counter template responses and insist on compensation or a fix.

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                #25

                @GrapheneOS Looking forward to see what comes from your work with Motorola (current and past phone have been Motorola for last nine years).

                Interested to hear what other collaborations are in the pipeline too.

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                • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                  Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

                  https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/31697-myhyundai-app-has-official-grapheneos-support

                  Pressure from Volkswagen customers on them can achieve the same thing. There's no legitimate reason to ban GrapheneOS so they'll undo it with pressure.

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                  #26

                  @GrapheneOS
                  Hyundai and Kia added official GrapheneOS support to their apps months before Volkswagen banned GrapheneOS:

                  I honestly do not care about VW, my last customer experience was utterly horrific.

                  That company, Never ever again.

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                    #27

                    @GrapheneOS Hi Team,
                    Please reconsider your Play Integrity API policy to allow secure custom operating systems like GrapheneOS.
                    GrapheneOS fully supports hardware-backed remote attestation and production-signed builds. It is often more secure than stock Android. Relying on strict Google integrity tiers blocks privacy-conscious users while creating a false sense of security, as it doesn't guarantee a vulnerability-free device.
                    Please adjust your app policy to permit verified, secure hardware.

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                      @GrapheneOS Done 😉

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                      • grapheneos@grapheneos.socialG grapheneos@grapheneos.social

                        Google has misled companies about what the Play Integrity API provides. It doesn't genuinely enforce having a secure device or legitimate app, it only pretends to. It leaves huge security holes open. It enforces Google's business interests and bans having a reasonably secure device with GrapheneOS.

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                        @GrapheneOS
                        More generally, the point of this kind of attestation in the general public is always to enforce developer's interests *against* the user. Often also anti-competitive. Even if they supported GrapheneOS at some point, general OS development would still be blocked. And even you as GrapheneOS would make yourselves dependent: They can always threaten you to withdraw attestation if they don't like your future plans for even better privacy protection against their abuse.

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                        • zm@kolektiva.socialZ zm@kolektiva.social

                          @GrapheneOS
                          I think you might have answered this before, but is there any way to make your OS look different to applications to circumvent the ban?

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                          @zm@kolektiva.social

                          @GrapheneOS@grapheneos.social

                          Everything involves a lawyer and lobbiests. Does google’s APIs count as a monopoly in your country - that is the first place I would look. However you are looking at large lawyer bills to prove it.

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