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Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January?

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  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

    Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

    Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

    You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

    https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

    #OpenWashing

    witchescauldron@kolektiva.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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    #42

    @_elena more mess to compost, it's a signal-to-noise issue that makes these people evil... left to themselves they are pointless so not much of a problem.

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    • H hannes99@mastodon.social

      @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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      #43

      @hannes99

      @_elena

      We don't want monetization. That's why we're in the Fediverse. Some people (avoiding name-calling here) want monetization. WSocial is for them.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

        Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

        You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

        https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

        #OpenWashing

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        hannes99@mastodon.social
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        #44

        @_elena

        "Its founders have ties with European politicians"

        Apparently also including the German data protection representative Louisa Specht-Riemenschneider 😏

        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundesbeauftragter_f%C3%BCr_den_Datenschutz_und_die_Informationsfreiheit

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

          #OpenWashing

          shwell@mastodon.auS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #45

          @_elena Its goal is to promote you carrying an agent around to spy on you.

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          • H hannes99@mastodon.social

            @_elena and #Wedium (again W) is just as shady. https://www.rnd.de/wirtschaft/wedium-und-w-social-jetzt-kommen-die-europaeischen-social-media-alternativen-RY5VRNGZXFDXFBCUNSZMZRM6SY.html

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            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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            #46

            @hannes99 I'd venture to say that Wedium is FAR shadier because it's not based on an open protocol...

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #47

              @m4lvin thank you! ❤️

              that was the main goal: use this piece as reference anytime someone brings up W Social and some myths about it

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              • bjornw@mastodon.socialB bjornw@mastodon.social

                @_elena thank you, for doing the work journalism / media should have been doing!

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                #48

                @BjornW thank you Bjorn! It means a lot coming from you ❤️

                I'm now thinking I need to translate this into French as well... there is SO MUCH misinformation about W Social here

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                • feyter@mastodon.gamedev.placeF feyter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @_elena At least for me it's clear... W social is a financial project to grap some founding money. It's not a project with European sovereignty in mind or with sovereignty for Europeans.

                  Therefore, it should be avoided.

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                  #49

                  @feyter I think they are betting on mandatory age verification in Europe... which would give them a leg up over Eurosky

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                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                    @hannes99 I'd venture to say that Wedium is FAR shadier because it's not based on an open protocol...

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                    hannes99@mastodon.social
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                    #50

                    @_elena true. At least Bluesky/AT Proto is a solid (while US BigTech) basis. And apparently in their entire team is only ONE IT person, thus heavy usage of vibe coding, when you have to build an entire new social media platform (and protocol) from scratch with only one person. The rest of the #Wedium team is marketing, finance and fundraising experts.

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                      Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                      You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                      #OpenWashing

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                      #51

                      @_elena 🔥🔥🔥

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                      • gina@fosstodon.orgG gina@fosstodon.org

                        @_elena 🔥🔥🔥

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                        #52

                        @Gina 🥰😘

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                          Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                          You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                          https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                          #OpenWashing

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                          jzb@hachyderm.io
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                          #53

                          @_elena Doing the Lord's Work (TM) -- awesome.

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                          • H hannes99@mastodon.social

                            @_elena true. At least Bluesky/AT Proto is a solid (while US BigTech) basis. And apparently in their entire team is only ONE IT person, thus heavy usage of vibe coding, when you have to build an entire new social media platform (and protocol) from scratch with only one person. The rest of the #Wedium team is marketing, finance and fundraising experts.

                            _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #54

                            @hannes99 yes and they have 125 million dollars in funding by crypto bros (Blockchain Capital and Bain Crypto Capital). Who can beat that? 🙊

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                              Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                              You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                              https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                              #OpenWashing

                              mick@cosocial.caM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #55

                              @_elena we have one of these too! https://gandersocial.ca

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                @hannes99 yes and they have 125 million dollars in funding by crypto bros (Blockchain Capital and Bain Crypto Capital). Who can beat that? 🙊

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                                hannes99@mastodon.social
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                                #56

                                @_elena 🙈

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                                • mick@cosocial.caM mick@cosocial.ca

                                  @_elena we have one of these too! https://gandersocial.ca

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                                  _elena@mastodon.social
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                                  #57

                                  @mick OMG 🤯😱

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    @hannes99 yes and they have 125 million dollars in funding by crypto bros (Blockchain Capital and Bain Crypto Capital). Who can beat that? 🙊

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                                    hannes99@mastodon.social
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                                    #58

                                    @_elena maybe with all that money they outsourced the development/programming?

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                                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                      Do you remember the surprise announcement of a new social network in Davos this past January? Something that promised to be the "first" European social network?

                                      Its name is #WSocial and it's a fork of #Bluesky. Its founders have ties with European politicians - but there is no official involvement by the EU.

                                      You wouldn't know any of this from media reports because they all rehashed their talking points. So I wrote a post about it, dispelling some myths:

                                      https://blog.elenarossini.com/w-social-uncovered-the-reality-behind-the-hype/

                                      #OpenWashing

                                      ziclaud@mastodon.socialZ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      ziclaud@mastodon.social
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                                      #59

                                      @_elena also, BeReal is French

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                                      • ziclaud@mastodon.socialZ ziclaud@mastodon.social

                                        @_elena also, BeReal is French

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                                        #60

                                        @ziclaud excellent point! I had completely forgotten about them

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                                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                          @feyter I think they are betting on mandatory age verification in Europe... which would give them a leg up over Eurosky

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                                          #61

                                          @_elena would it make even worse for me... And would show just again, that this platform is not interested in real sovereignty.

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