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A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays":

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  • delta@chaos.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays":

    1) It's all based on IETF standards, with configuration and custom integration code fully FOSS and documented at: https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/ with hundreds of permission-free deployments.

    2) We know of several alternative relay implementations and deployments

    3) Own servers or big email providers can be used (YMMV)

    However it's fair to criticize our relentless focus on E2EE, and our moving away from email addresses as identity.

    ben@kwiecien.usB laempel@social.selbstlernserver.deL happyborg@fosstodon.orgH michal@101010.plM 4 Replies Last reply
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    • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

      A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays":

      1) It's all based on IETF standards, with configuration and custom integration code fully FOSS and documented at: https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/ with hundreds of permission-free deployments.

      2) We know of several alternative relay implementations and deployments

      3) Own servers or big email providers can be used (YMMV)

      However it's fair to criticize our relentless focus on E2EE, and our moving away from email addresses as identity.

      ben@kwiecien.usB This user is from outside of this forum
      ben@kwiecien.usB This user is from outside of this forum
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      @delta Proprietary? Are they on crack?

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      • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

        A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays":

        1) It's all based on IETF standards, with configuration and custom integration code fully FOSS and documented at: https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/ with hundreds of permission-free deployments.

        2) We know of several alternative relay implementations and deployments

        3) Own servers or big email providers can be used (YMMV)

        However it's fair to criticize our relentless focus on E2EE, and our moving away from email addresses as identity.

        laempel@social.selbstlernserver.deL This user is from outside of this forum
        laempel@social.selbstlernserver.deL This user is from outside of this forum
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        @delta@chaos.social

        Ganz von der Hand zu weisen ist der Vorwurf nicht. Jedes erfolgreiche FOSS nimmt proprietäre Züge an, sobald die Nutzer Bequemlichkeit und die viel zitierte eierlegende Wollmilchsau einfordern.

        Mithin: Gräte von Appel lassen eine andere Nutzung von DeltaChat als mit chatmail praktisch gar nicht mehr zu. An wem liegt das nun…?

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        • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

          A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays":

          1) It's all based on IETF standards, with configuration and custom integration code fully FOSS and documented at: https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/ with hundreds of permission-free deployments.

          2) We know of several alternative relay implementations and deployments

          3) Own servers or big email providers can be used (YMMV)

          However it's fair to criticize our relentless focus on E2EE, and our moving away from email addresses as identity.

          happyborg@fosstodon.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
          happyborg@fosstodon.orgH This user is from outside of this forum
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          @delta another untrusted system [sigh]. Glad I only dabbled.

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          • delta@chaos.socialD delta@chaos.social

            A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays":

            1) It's all based on IETF standards, with configuration and custom integration code fully FOSS and documented at: https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/ with hundreds of permission-free deployments.

            2) We know of several alternative relay implementations and deployments

            3) Own servers or big email providers can be used (YMMV)

            However it's fair to criticize our relentless focus on E2EE, and our moving away from email addresses as identity.

            michal@101010.plM This user is from outside of this forum
            michal@101010.plM This user is from outside of this forum
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            @delta totally unwarranted criticism. I wouldn't worry about it 🧘🏻‍♂️

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