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I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

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  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

    I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

    Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

    I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

    elala@nrw.socialE This user is from outside of this forum
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    #72

    @sundogplanets
    😳 🫣

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    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

      I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

      Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

      I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

      cora@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #73

      @sundogplanets That is disappointing. I honestly don’t understand why someone would even bother with that; it’s literally easier and faster to say, “no, I don’t have time.”

      I think for anyone who’s taken that pill, appealing from a moral perspective is just moot. Of course all of those things are absolutely awful and destructive.

      And absolutely everyone knows this.

      Which means anyone still using it has already looked at the environmental, community, and cognitive damage and said, “ok”. And being on the receiving end a reminder of that probably going to just entrench them further.

      Knowing that they made someone they respect feel disrespected, and that others’ impression of them has been lowered a bit? Maybe that would help.

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      • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

        @sundogplanets Years later, I'm still reeling from when someone, during an actual face-to-face conversation, took out his phone to ask ChatGPT what to say to me.

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        #74

        @datarama

        I knew someone like that.
        I tried.
        For months.
        But nothing changed.
        Even a simple thing as looking up, shivering, and saying 'Whoa, do you think it will rain?' made him lift his phone, which he usually had in his hand.
        While I was talking, he was checking his phone. I asked if he could put it down, which he did, but then he kept staring at it. It was all so pointless and sad.

        @sundogplanets

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        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

          I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

          Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

          I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

          galamadryade@piaille.frG This user is from outside of this forum
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          galamadryade@piaille.fr
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          #75

          @sundogplanets
          Erf.

          Apart from all the planet-destroying stochastic parrot problem (which is real and VERY problematic), you asked for comments and they couldn't bother.

          That's unprofessionnal and deeply disrespectful.

          I'm so sorry.

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          • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

            I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

            Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

            I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

            tony_meredith@mastodon.me.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
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            #76

            @sundogplanets I'm distant from this AI stuff. But if trust has been broken, then you might tell them about your disappointment. Basic information so that they might appreciate, on reflection, how the relationship has shifted.

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

              Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

              I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

              antoinechambertloir@mathstodon.xyzA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #77

              @sundogplanets I'm truly sorry for what this guy made to you.

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              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                grymt@social.trom.tfG This user is from outside of this forum
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                grymt@social.trom.tf
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #78
                @sundogplanets This cartoon by Pierre Pauma seems in order
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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                  Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                  I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #79

                  @sundogplanets NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 😔

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                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                    I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                    Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                    I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                    leebennett@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #80

                    @sundogplanets I have similar issues with people submitting items to my print shop for reproduction with an AI slop abomination of our corporate logo, and they get mad coz I won’t print it. “It looks good enough!”

                    https://mastodon.social/@leebennett/117424131347864136

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      I really appreciate all the great advice and suggestions. I'm just... so disappointed and know I have to approach all my interactions with this person differently in the future. I've written up a long email, but I'm realizing that won't work as well as having a conversation with the person. Especially because I'm likely to start crying during the conversation. So. That's going to be FUN.

                      But maybe it will help one person be less addicted to the forest-burning plagiarism machine? Maybe?

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                      #81

                      @sundogplanets this is the first I heard it like that and I quite like the analogy: “forest burning plagiarism machine.”

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                        Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                        I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                        deborahh@cosocial.caD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #82

                        @sundogplanets @Beltliner403 maybe they'd understand the IP issue: now chqtgpt has your unpublished writing. 🙁

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                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                          I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                          Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                          I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                          simonoak@mastodon.ieS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #83

                          @sundogplanets maybe it she was unable to decipher your handwriting 🤣

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                          • littlebobbytables@mstdn.socialL littlebobbytables@mstdn.social

                            @datarama @sundogplanets

                            My response would "why am I talking to you then? Give me your entire universe of login/auth and I will 'chat with your bot' "

                            hosford42@techhub.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #84

                            @Littlebobbytables @datarama @sundogplanets cut out the middleman

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                            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                              I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                              Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                              I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                              tiggy@mastodonapp.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #85

                              @sundogplanets

                              One of my friends used to ask me to edit her work.
                              I was happy to do it, and with a few hours turnaround, and free.
                              Then she proudly told me she was using AI now instead.

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                              • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                                Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                                I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                                vitor@hachyderm.ioV This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #86

                                @sundogplanets > I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them.

                                “I asked you because I wanted *your* opinion. I trusted *your* judgement.

                                I would have understood if you had told me you didn’t want to do it or didn’t have the availability.

                                In the future, please do not feed my words into an AI bot without asking, it makes me uncomfortable.”

                                Something like that. It’s respectful and short enough that they’ll probably read it themselves. It also leaves the door open for them to do a followup and you can take it from there.

                                I would avoid comments like “breach of trust” from the get-go, as it could put them on the defensive. Show yourself to be open to their view to make them open to yours. With that approach you’ll soon learn if your effort is worth the trouble, and if it’s not you can leave the relationship with a clean conscience.

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                                • iris@neuromatch.socialI iris@neuromatch.social

                                  @MCDuncanLab @sundogplanets I read about the math thing, or a particular one of them at least. Anthropic claiming precedence on having completed a proof linked with prize money, after training on extensive work not consensually shared with Anthropic... my gods.

                                  hosford42@techhub.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #87

                                  @iris @MCDuncanLab @sundogplanets

                                  Does anybody have links for this? I'd love to know more

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                                    Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                                    I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                                    macacator@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #88

                                    @sundogplanets they're lost, no response required at that point.

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                                    • hosford42@techhub.socialH hosford42@techhub.social

                                      @iris @MCDuncanLab @sundogplanets

                                      Does anybody have links for this? I'd love to know more

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                                      #89

                                      @hosford42 @MCDuncanLab @sundogplanets not sure if this is the one I read, but I think it covers the case I mentioned: https://thecybersecguru.com/news/openai-navier-stokes-proof/

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                                      • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                        @ravenbait @sundogplanets
                                        Copied. The LLMs do not learn nor are they trained. It's an abuse of English by PR/Marketing.

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                                        #90

                                        @raymaccarthy @ravenbait @sundogplanets That's a semantic argument. Her content was given to an "AI" bot that is more than just an LLM, and that content has been assimilated by that bot into its source material. It now knows what Prof. Lawler wrote. It can then freely use that without her permission.

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          I asked a trusted colleague for comments on a written document and they fed it in to chatGPT and sent me back that output and I just want to cry.

                                          Guess I won't be asking that person for help or advice on anything anymore. Enshittification happens in people's writing skills too, I guess.

                                          I also have absolutely no idea how to respond to them. If you're that far down the genAI black hole I don't think pointing out the ethical/environmental/cognitive issues will help. Fuck.

                                          mlanger@mastodon.worldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #91

                                          @sundogplanets @LJ How about telling them that if you wanted AI slop, you would've asked ChatGPT yourself?

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