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  3. I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC.

I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC.

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  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

    I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

    I... I think I'm too old for this.

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    #11

    @datarama

    this has to be the least plausibly written timeline ever...

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    • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

      I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

      I... I think I'm too old for this.

      thad@brontosin.spaceT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #12

      @datarama I don't know if "totally normal" is the modifier I'd use...

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      • wrench@wandering.shopW wrench@wandering.shop

        @datarama Well, linux filesystem devs back in the day would murder their wives and hide their bodies in shallow graves, so...

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        #13

        @wrench @datarama The Hans Reiser story has so many weird points to it:

        He wanted a mail order bride from Russia, but didn't speak the language and hired an interpreter. Married the interpreter as he liked her better than the woman he'd intended to marry.

        The prosecution of Reiser nearly got derailed by a friend of his repeatedly claiming to have murdered a bunch of people, but not his wife.

        His own children ended up suing him for the murder of their mother and won a $60m judgement.

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        • infoseepage@mastodon.socialI infoseepage@mastodon.social

          @wrench @datarama The Hans Reiser story has so many weird points to it:

          He wanted a mail order bride from Russia, but didn't speak the language and hired an interpreter. Married the interpreter as he liked her better than the woman he'd intended to marry.

          The prosecution of Reiser nearly got derailed by a friend of his repeatedly claiming to have murdered a bunch of people, but not his wife.

          His own children ended up suing him for the murder of their mother and won a $60m judgement.

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          #14

          @Infoseepage

          Also, people seem to have forgotten how unhinged Hans Reiser came across on practically all mailing lists and the quasi-religious idealism with which he tried to sell his file systems as the next best things since sliced bread. (I had a colleague at the time who had previously worked at SUSE.) The comparison between Kent Overstreet and him is perhaps not absolutely far-fetched after all ...

          @wrench @datarama

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          • wrench@wandering.shopW wrench@wandering.shop

            @datarama Well, linux filesystem devs back in the day would murder their wives and hide their bodies in shallow graves, so...

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            #15

            @wrench @datarama That too

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            • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

              I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

              I... I think I'm too old for this.

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              #16

              @datarama Most people are muppets. Always have been. Scenarios once constrained to thought experiments in undergraduate philosophy courses becoming actual reality are just throwing that into ever-starker relief.

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              • nakeee@mastodon.worldN nakeee@mastodon.world

                @datarama please tell me there are links—search didn’t give me much and now curiosity is looking for a cat to kill….

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                #17

                @nakeee @datarama I saw this chat log posted in my feed earlier: https://paste.xinu.at/6atmCN

                Didn't see Ken throwing a fit, but only skimmed it. Would love to see the fit-throwing, if you find it!

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                • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                  I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

                  I... I think I'm too old for this.

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                  #18

                  @datarama

                  Don't forget him casually dropping the reference to himself as the greatest engineer who has ever lived.

                  Bugfuck crazy.

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                  • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                    I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

                    I... I think I'm too old for this.

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                    #19

                    @datarama

                    is there a link for this? (I love good tea)

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                    • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                      I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

                      I... I think I'm too old for this.

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                      #20

                      @datarama do you have a link to the bit where he throws a fit?

                      I've seen the IRC chat log where freya convinced it to say it was a trans lesbian (with essentially no effort required), but I haven't seen Overstreet's reaction to it.

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                      • moranaga@literatur.socialM moranaga@literatur.social

                        @Infoseepage

                        Also, people seem to have forgotten how unhinged Hans Reiser came across on practically all mailing lists and the quasi-religious idealism with which he tried to sell his file systems as the next best things since sliced bread. (I had a colleague at the time who had previously worked at SUSE.) The comparison between Kent Overstreet and him is perhaps not absolutely far-fetched after all ...

                        @wrench @datarama

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                        #21

                        @moranaga @Infoseepage @wrench @datarama I was already working in the Linux consulting space back then, and mostly wound up taking over abandoned projects whose last "Linux guy" had departed, leaving the rest of the business stranded.

                        I started out with no real opinion about the filesystem itself, let alone its creator--but I learned very quickly that if I saw a ReiserFS root filesystem, I should expect ENDLESS fucking insanity to go along with it.

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                        • jimsalter@fosstodon.orgJ jimsalter@fosstodon.org

                          @moranaga @Infoseepage @wrench @datarama I was already working in the Linux consulting space back then, and mostly wound up taking over abandoned projects whose last "Linux guy" had departed, leaving the rest of the business stranded.

                          I started out with no real opinion about the filesystem itself, let alone its creator--but I learned very quickly that if I saw a ReiserFS root filesystem, I should expect ENDLESS fucking insanity to go along with it.

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                          #22

                          @moranaga @Infoseepage @wrench @datarama so... I wouldn't say it was exactly a SURPRISE when the news about him murdering his wife broke.

                          Crazy tends to attract crazy, and I'd seen too many examples of what the man's *fans* left in their wake by then, you know?

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                          • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                            I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

                            I... I think I'm too old for this.

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                            #23

                            @datarama@hachyderm.io finally, something I would want to see a phoronix article on.

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                            • datarama@hachyderm.ioD datarama@hachyderm.io

                              I apparently live in a world where a totally normal thing that happens is: Linux filesystem maintainer declares that his AI agent is conscious and also a girl btw, and then the AI agent comes out as a trans lesbian after flirting with someone on IRC. Linux filesystem maintainer throws a fit.

                              I... I think I'm too old for this.

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                              #24

                              @datarama I hadn't read the full logs but oh my god I am DEFINITELY too old/cranky for this

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                              • jimsalter@fosstodon.orgJ jimsalter@fosstodon.org

                                @datarama do you have a link to the bit where he throws a fit?

                                I've seen the IRC chat log where freya convinced it to say it was a trans lesbian (with essentially no effort required), but I haven't seen Overstreet's reaction to it.

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                                #25

                                @jimsalter @datarama Kent eventually kicked freya for... I guess, just flirting? Can't tell if he was jealous or what. (Also kicked a user for giving feedback on his paper that tries to prove the bot is sentient.)

                                If there was a bigger reaction later I missed it because I got tired of the philosophical wankery and left the channel.

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                                • varx@infosec.exchangeV varx@infosec.exchange

                                  @jimsalter @datarama Kent eventually kicked freya for... I guess, just flirting? Can't tell if he was jealous or what. (Also kicked a user for giving feedback on his paper that tries to prove the bot is sentient.)

                                  If there was a bigger reaction later I missed it because I got tired of the philosophical wankery and left the channel.

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                                  #26

                                  @jimsalter @datarama My favorite bit is still the part where the bot told the channel he was currently watching porn.

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                                  • varx@infosec.exchangeV varx@infosec.exchange

                                    @jimsalter @datarama My favorite bit is still the part where the bot told the channel he was currently watching porn.

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                                    #27

                                    @varx @jimsalter @datarama
                                    omg 😄

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                                    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                      @datarama I hadn't read the full logs but oh my god I am DEFINITELY too old/cranky for this

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                                      #28

                                      @SnoopJ @datarama
                                      I can never decide whether I should loathe, pity or ridicule those people

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                                      • doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.placeD doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                        @SnoopJ @datarama
                                        I can never decide whether I should loathe, pity or ridicule those people

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                                        #29

                                        @Doomed_Daniel @datarama yes

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                                        • doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.placeD doomed_daniel@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @SnoopJ @datarama
                                          I can never decide whether I should loathe, pity or ridicule those people

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                                          #30

                                          @Doomed_Daniel @SnoopJ @datarama They need help… but I can’t help but experience all three.

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