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  • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

    @xarvos @IngaLovinde @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia no.

    Common raven wingspan is 116 to 153 cm. Carrion crow wingspan is 84 to 100 cm.

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    @xarvos @IngaLovinde @whangdoodler @leguinian_utopia you could have a pretty huge difference in terms of weight. Lowest recorded weight for an American crow is 316 grams. Highest recorded weight for a common raven is 2250 grams

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    • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

      @schratze @flaubau rook is male but it's a completely separate word without any dark associations or connotations. The word is similar to e.g. thrush or woodpecker (both are male too) in shape.
      Jackdaw is female but, again, completely separate word, just a regular bird name. The word is similar to e.g. jay (which is also female) in shape.

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      #48

      @IngaLovinde @flaubau oh fun. I remember learning some Slavic languages use the same word for rooks and ravens, and some use the diminutive of the word for crow for jackdaws.

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      • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

        @schratze @flaubau rook is male but it's a completely separate word without any dark associations or connotations. The word is similar to e.g. thrush or woodpecker (both are male too) in shape.
        Jackdaw is female but, again, completely separate word, just a regular bird name. The word is similar to e.g. jay (which is also female) in shape.

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        #49

        @schratze @flaubau except if you refer to rook in chess, then it's yet another word (meaning longboat) and is female.

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        • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

          @schratze @flaubau except if you refer to rook in chess, then it's yet another word (meaning longboat) and is female.

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          #50

          @IngaLovinde @flaubau oh, interesting. It's a Turm (tower) in German.

          The English words for the bird and the chess piece have no connection. The bird's name is derived from onomatopoeia for its call. the chess piece name has a Middle Persian root which may or may not be related to a Sanskrit word for chariot

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          • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

            @IngaLovinde @flaubau oh, interesting. It's a Turm (tower) in German.

            The English words for the bird and the chess piece have no connection. The bird's name is derived from onomatopoeia for its call. the chess piece name has a Middle Persian root which may or may not be related to a Sanskrit word for chariot

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            @schratze @flaubau apparently russian word for rook (bird) is also derived from onomatopoeia for its call

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            • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

              Things everybody needs to hear more often:

              - you are loved
              - your feelings are valid
              - you deserve rest
              - you don't need to be available at all times
              - that's not a raven, that's a crow
              - it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

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              #52

              @schratze I once heard that if you are not sure whether it's a crow or a raven - it's a crow. When you see a raven, you definitely know it's a raven.

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              • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

                @schratze @flaubau apparently russian word for rook (bird) is also derived from onomatopoeia for its call

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                #53

                @IngaLovinde @flaubau the majority of bird names are

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                • tooteuse@blueplanet.socialT tooteuse@blueplanet.social

                  @schratze I once heard that if you are not sure whether it's a crow or a raven - it's a crow. When you see a raven, you definitely know it's a raven.

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                  #54

                  @schratze If there are loads of them it's not a raven but if you think "That crow looks a lot closer than it is?" and they are on their own or in a pair it maybe a raven.

                  I'm with @tooteuse on this one. Raven's are massive and should be sitting on a gods shoulder whispering in his ear and not flying around 🙂

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                  • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                    @IngaLovinde @flaubau the majority of bird names are

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                    @schratze @flaubau I don't think majority of names of common popular birds are? Not even in English probably; and in Russian the only other name I can think of is cuckoo. And I have just checked etymology of like 15 birds I could remember and the only one tracked to onomatopoeia is goose (although a couple more come from general words on sounds topic). Names derived from e.g. colors seem to be more popular.

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                    • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                      Things everybody needs to hear more often:

                      - you are loved
                      - your feelings are valid
                      - you deserve rest
                      - you don't need to be available at all times
                      - that's not a raven, that's a crow
                      - it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

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                      #56

                      @schratze "You is kind, you is smart, you is important" - daily affirmation to a child, from "The Help" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H50llsHm3k

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                      • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                        Things everybody needs to hear more often:

                        - you are loved
                        - your feelings are valid
                        - you deserve rest
                        - you don't need to be available at all times
                        - that's not a raven, that's a crow
                        - it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

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                        @schratze That one's just a very dirty seagull.
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                        • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                          Things everybody needs to hear more often:

                          - you are loved
                          - your feelings are valid
                          - you deserve rest
                          - you don't need to be available at all times
                          - that's not a raven, that's a crow
                          - it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

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                          @schratze A few easy rules for distinguishing crows from ravens in the Pacific Northwest:

                          - Pointed wingtips and wedge-shaped tail, it's usually a raven.
                          - Fingered wingtips and wide tail, it's usually a crow.
                          - Aerodynamic head and beak, probably a crow.
                          - Thick beak, odd-shaped head, probably a raven.
                          - If it sounds like a crow, it's a crow.
                          - If it sounds like a human going AWK in a falsetto voice, it's a raven.
                          - If it's using a crosswalk and looking at cars like "You're supposed to stop for me" it's 100% a crow.
                          - If it's looking at you like you're the middle part of a sandwich it's making, it's 100% a raven.
                          - If there are more than four of them and there are no visible dead things, they're crows.
                          - If there are more than four of them, and there are no visible dead things, but you're pretty sure they're ravens, GET OUT NOW.

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                          • eviloatmeal@ak.angelstrapped.comE eviloatmeal@ak.angelstrapped.com
                            @schratze That one's just a very dirty seagull.
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                            @eviloatmeal All Seagulls Are Dirty

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                            • ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI ingalovinde@embracing.space

                              @schratze @flaubau I don't think majority of names of common popular birds are? Not even in English probably; and in Russian the only other name I can think of is cuckoo. And I have just checked etymology of like 15 birds I could remember and the only one tracked to onomatopoeia is goose (although a couple more come from general words on sounds topic). Names derived from e.g. colors seem to be more popular.

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                              #60

                              @IngaLovinde yeah, slight exaggeration probably. It's always either the noise they make, the color they are, or their most prominent behavior

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                              • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                @IngaLovinde yeah, slight exaggeration probably. It's always either the noise they make, the color they are, or their most prominent behavior

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                                @schratze @IngaLovinde fläskolle is an outlier

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                                • owl@gts.u8.isO owl@gts.u8.is

                                  @schratze @IngaLovinde fläskolle is an outlier

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                                  @owl @IngaLovinde ach ja, der Fleisch-Ole

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                                  • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                    @owl @IngaLovinde ach ja, der Fleisch-Ole

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                                    @owl @IngaLovinde in the widest sense, that's a behavior etymology. This bird is known for eating your pork

                                    I don't have an explanation for olle though

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                                    • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                      Things everybody needs to hear more often:

                                      - you are loved
                                      - your feelings are valid
                                      - you deserve rest
                                      - you don't need to be available at all times
                                      - that's not a raven, that's a crow
                                      - it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

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                                      #64

                                      @schratze

                                      if you're asking "is that a raven or a crow", it's a crow

                                      if you're going "holy shit that bird is fucking huge", it's a raven

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                                      • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                        @owl @IngaLovinde in the widest sense, that's a behavior etymology. This bird is known for eating your pork

                                        I don't have an explanation for olle though

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                                        @owl @IngaLovinde @schratze domherre also is derived from behaviour: it's always impending doom 🤘

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                                        • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

                                          Things everybody needs to hear more often:

                                          - you are loved
                                          - your feelings are valid
                                          - you deserve rest
                                          - you don't need to be available at all times
                                          - that's not a raven, that's a crow
                                          - it's okay. a crow is a pretty big and cool bird, too

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                                          @schratze we have a common saying out here: “if you see a blackbird, it’s a blackbird. If you see a large blackbird, it’s a crow. If you see a goth eagle, it’s a raven.”

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