Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

[transcendentempress@eldritch.cafe]

@futurebird It's big on the world map, and somebody told him there might eventually be unexploited ressources under it, plus that he could get his money share for making it possible, so he wants it?

[oyvindbs@nerdculture.de]

Probably extraction of minerals in a very harmful manner for the environment. Denmark and the EU does not give extractive industries free reign. @futurebird

[bubblegumyeti@mastodon.social]

@futurebird https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/the-world-the-universe-and-us/id1496847791

Basically nothing ; he has no clue. Only reason could be to secure Northern land with the incoming global warming apocalypse.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@naturepoker

I have a friend who used to work in commodities and he says the oil companies are not interested in Venezuela now. They were wary because of the government, but now they are MORE wary because it's less stable.

[eugestshirley@m.ai6yr.org]

@futurebird
Putin wants NATO gone. He's Donnie's puppeteer.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@EugestShirley

Everyone wants to be a little big man instead of actually doing amazing big things. The lack of imagination depresses me.

[psychonaut@mastodon.online]

@futurebird imho it's about having somewhere to live in a couple of decades when the majority of the continental US is uninhabitable due to climate change. Ditto the aspirations about Canada becoming the 51st state.

[androcat@toot.cat]

@futurebird Take away all indigenous rights and stripmine the bedrock that will be revealed as their climate decisions melt the ice caps.

[nicksalt@mas.to]

@futurebird I am sure it is the reason. These are the same type of people who orchestrated Brexit in the UK and sold it to the same type of "flag waving citizens" for support.

[naturepoker@genomic.social]

@futurebird sounds about right. Impression I'm getting here and there is no one really asked for any of this outside the pres himself and his cronies looking to play modern day Alexander.

[pthane@toot.wales]

@futurebird
If the global warming that MAGA don't believe in turns out to be true after all then Greenland becomes a lot more attractive. By 2100 the Arctic could be the new Mediterranean. Though why this would interest a toddler who can't think beyond the next meal remains a mystery.

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@pthane

Do they think that far into the future?

They won't be alive then.

[frantasaur@mastodon.ie]

@depereo @futurebird they will use it to figure out how to oppress people on Mars. Reminds me of this song:

https://youtu.be/_nnA-IBH8c8?si=uMPGJTDTY9VPwCXB

[unktheunk@social.yesterweb.org]

@futurebird that may be a factor in this

but we need to keep in mind that the set of people actually involved in trying to warmonger about Greenland is literally less than a dozen people. They've pushed away everyone who would have possibly pushed back on rank idiocy, they do not have the time in the day to come up with a coherent reasoning

[debbiedoomer@ni.hil.ist]

@futurebird
The us wants to be able to be a free agent and so donald trump is cashing out all the us based international structure possible. I mean, its about a lot of stuff but also, Sometimes i think these idiots literally think like a big map game and want to get the continent bonus or some shit

[evilcartyen@mstdn.dk]

@futurebird

In Denmark we feel the US is trying to kick in an open door, the only thing I can think of RE mineral rights is that we probably have stricter environmental protection laws than the US.

But overall it's not economical to mine in Greenland, the Greenland government has been desperate for investments for decades and yet there are no major mining operations in place.

I think it's just because it would Look Cool to have a new territory added to the US.

That said, the Greenlanders should decide who to associate with. They might dislike Denmark - and for mostly good reasons - but I doubt they're gonna look at their kin in Alaska and think "they look like they're having a great time!".

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@EvilCartyen

"That said, the Greenlanders should decide who to associate with."

Absolutely.

[drmambobob@ecoevo.social]

@futurebird @pthane Maybe they don't have a good sense of timescale so they think the ice would melt in a couple of years?

[futurebird@sauropods.win]

@drmambobob @pthane

I think it's important to remember that you can know something is a bad idea even if you can't make sense of the motivations of the people trying to do it.

Because it's possible their motivations make no sense. No one can explain this to me sufficiently. It's a bad idea.

It's bad that it even is "an idea" it's not worth thinking about.

[frantasaur@mastodon.ie]

@pthane @futurebird can’t work like that though, it will still be hellishly dark in the winter months