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Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

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  • depereo@mastodon.socialD depereo@mastodon.social

    @futurebird set up weird slave cities for american billionaires

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/10/greenland-trump-silicon-valley-tech-utopia-mars/83025685007/

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    #12

    @depereo

    Why can't they just do that now?

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

      Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

      Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

      It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

      What do you get?

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      #13

      @futurebird https://theworlddata.com/greenland-rare-earth-minerals/

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      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

        Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

        Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

        Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

        It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

        What do you get?

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        #14

        @futurebird as I understand it, due to the polar ice caps melting there will be a new viable sea trade route via the North West Passage.
        But, like you say, I'm not sure why the US need to encroach on Greenland and not just, say, be allied to them.

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

          Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

          Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

          It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

          What do you get?

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          #15

          @futurebird mineral rights to exploit and sea passage to control

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          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

            Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

            Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

            Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

            It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

            What do you get?

            naturepoker@genomic.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #16

            @futurebird IMO it's not even companies, it's just Trump and his cronies' running a vanity project. From the way they've been pitching Venezuela to oil companies, him and his gang will just hold the whole thing hostage and demand direct payments for access, as in actual tens of percent income to the gov.

            He just now outright gave an interview saying he wants Greenland because "it's psychologically important for him"

            https://people.com/donald-trump-wants-ownership-greenland-psychologically-important-11883940

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            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

              Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

              Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

              Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

              It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

              What do you get?

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              #17

              @futurebird It's big on the world map, and somebody told him there might eventually be unexploited ressources under it, plus that he could get his money share for making it possible, so he wants it?

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

                Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

                Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

                It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

                What do you get?

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                oyvindbs@nerdculture.de
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                #18

                Probably extraction of minerals in a very harmful manner for the environment. Denmark and the EU does not give extractive industries free reign. @futurebird

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

                  Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

                  Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

                  It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

                  What do you get?

                  bubblegumyeti@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  bubblegumyeti@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #19

                  @futurebird https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/the-world-the-universe-and-us/id1496847791

                  Basically nothing ; he has no clue. Only reason could be to secure Northern land with the incoming global warming apocalypse.

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                  • naturepoker@genomic.socialN naturepoker@genomic.social

                    @futurebird IMO it's not even companies, it's just Trump and his cronies' running a vanity project. From the way they've been pitching Venezuela to oil companies, him and his gang will just hold the whole thing hostage and demand direct payments for access, as in actual tens of percent income to the gov.

                    He just now outright gave an interview saying he wants Greenland because "it's psychologically important for him"

                    https://people.com/donald-trump-wants-ownership-greenland-psychologically-important-11883940

                    futurebird@sauropods.winF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #20

                    @naturepoker

                    I have a friend who used to work in commodities and he says the oil companies are not interested in Venezuela now. They were wary because of the government, but now they are MORE wary because it's less stable.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      There is a theory that this move is designed to break up NATO.

                      I thought that was a little far fetched at first, NATO is really good for the US, it's like the birthday boy throwing a tantrum.

                      But some conservatives have a deep seated fear of "world government." So maybe that's it? Basically these are the guys who find it galling that there are notions like "international law" or "human rights" however unevenly applied.

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                      #21

                      @futurebird
                      Putin wants NATO gone. He's Donnie's puppeteer.

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                      • eugestshirley@m.ai6yr.orgE eugestshirley@m.ai6yr.org

                        @futurebird
                        Putin wants NATO gone. He's Donnie's puppeteer.

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                        #22

                        @EugestShirley

                        Everyone wants to be a little big man instead of actually doing amazing big things. The lack of imagination depresses me.

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                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                          Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

                          Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

                          Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

                          It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

                          What do you get?

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                          #23

                          @futurebird imho it's about having somewhere to live in a couple of decades when the majority of the continental US is uninhabitable due to climate change. Ditto the aspirations about Canada becoming the 51st state.

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                          • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                            Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

                            Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

                            Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

                            It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

                            What do you get?

                            androcat@toot.catA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #24

                            @futurebird Take away all indigenous rights and stripmine the bedrock that will be revealed as their climate decisions melt the ice caps.

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                            • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                              There is a theory that this move is designed to break up NATO.

                              I thought that was a little far fetched at first, NATO is really good for the US, it's like the birthday boy throwing a tantrum.

                              But some conservatives have a deep seated fear of "world government." So maybe that's it? Basically these are the guys who find it galling that there are notions like "international law" or "human rights" however unevenly applied.

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                              #25

                              @futurebird I am sure it is the reason. These are the same type of people who orchestrated Brexit in the UK and sold it to the same type of "flag waving citizens" for support.

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                              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                @naturepoker

                                I have a friend who used to work in commodities and he says the oil companies are not interested in Venezuela now. They were wary because of the government, but now they are MORE wary because it's less stable.

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                                #26

                                @futurebird sounds about right. Impression I'm getting here and there is no one really asked for any of this outside the pres himself and his cronies looking to play modern day Alexander.

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                                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                  Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

                                  Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

                                  Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

                                  It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

                                  What do you get?

                                  pthane@toot.walesP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  pthane@toot.wales
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                                  #27

                                  @futurebird
                                  If the global warming that MAGA don't believe in turns out to be true after all then Greenland becomes a lot more attractive. By 2100 the Arctic could be the new Mediterranean. Though why this would interest a toddler who can't think beyond the next meal remains a mystery.

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                                  • pthane@toot.walesP pthane@toot.wales

                                    @futurebird
                                    If the global warming that MAGA don't believe in turns out to be true after all then Greenland becomes a lot more attractive. By 2100 the Arctic could be the new Mediterranean. Though why this would interest a toddler who can't think beyond the next meal remains a mystery.

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                                    #28

                                    @pthane

                                    Do they think that far into the future?

                                    They won't be alive then.

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                                    • depereo@mastodon.socialD depereo@mastodon.social

                                      @futurebird set up weird slave cities for american billionaires

                                      https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/04/10/greenland-trump-silicon-valley-tech-utopia-mars/83025685007/

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                                      #29

                                      @depereo @futurebird they will use it to figure out how to oppress people on Mars. Reminds me of this song:

                                      https://youtu.be/_nnA-IBH8c8?si=uMPGJTDTY9VPwCXB

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                                      • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                        There is a theory that this move is designed to break up NATO.

                                        I thought that was a little far fetched at first, NATO is really good for the US, it's like the birthday boy throwing a tantrum.

                                        But some conservatives have a deep seated fear of "world government." So maybe that's it? Basically these are the guys who find it galling that there are notions like "international law" or "human rights" however unevenly applied.

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                                        #30

                                        @futurebird that may be a factor in this

                                        but we need to keep in mind that the set of people actually involved in trying to warmonger about Greenland is literally less than a dozen people. They've pushed away everyone who would have possibly pushed back on rank idiocy, they do not have the time in the day to come up with a coherent reasoning

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                                        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                                          Can someone explain to me what Trump and the US Government or companies would be able to do if they "had Greenland" that they can't do right now?

                                          Like, what are we talking about? It's going to be cold Puerto Rico? I'd say "well they could set up a military base" ... but we have that already?

                                          Is this about mineral or drilling rights or something?

                                          It's of course offensive nonsense, but I don't even get the point. And no one asks them.

                                          What do you get?

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                                          #31

                                          @futurebird
                                          The us wants to be able to be a free agent and so donald trump is cashing out all the us based international structure possible. I mean, its about a lot of stuff but also, Sometimes i think these idiots literally think like a big map game and want to get the continent bonus or some shit

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