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  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

    #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 61 of 158
    TGV 6760
    07:05 Montbard - Paris Gare de Lyon 08:09
    SNCF Voyageurs

    Train type: Alstom TGV Duplex, 8 short double deck carriages
    ⚡️ (1.5kV dc, 25kV ac, 1.5kV dc)
    🚲: ⛔️
    🦽: ✅ (step free into bottom level then lift down inside)
    🛜: ✅ (and it's working well)
    🍽️: ✅
    🧳: ☹️ (horrid design, although as it's mostly business travellers today there's enough space)
    🧽: 🙂

    🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €10 or €20 from Rail Europe)

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    #7

    Quick recap of what I am seeking to find on these #CrossBorderRail journeys: https://crossborderrail.trainsforeurope.eu/crossborderrail-what-am-i-trying-to-find-and-whats-the-goal/

    Today and tomorrow surprises are unlikely, but Thursday and Friday are going to be interesting!

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    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

      Quick recap of what I am seeking to find on these #CrossBorderRail journeys: https://crossborderrail.trainsforeurope.eu/crossborderrail-what-am-i-trying-to-find-and-whats-the-goal/

      Today and tomorrow surprises are unlikely, but Thursday and Friday are going to be interesting!

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      #8

      As I roll into Gare de Lyon I check my departures from Gare de l‘Est. All smooth so far. But SNCF is incredible - not a single long distance train from Est between 08:36 and 09:06! #CrossBorderRail

      I’ll 🚲 across Paris instead of taking the RER

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        As I roll into Gare de Lyon I check my departures from Gare de l‘Est. All smooth so far. But SNCF is incredible - not a single long distance train from Est between 08:36 and 09:06! #CrossBorderRail

        I’ll 🚲 across Paris instead of taking the RER

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        #9

        Total chaos boarding the TGV Duplex at Est

        High clueless tourist % who can’t find their seats, not helped by lousy signage on board

        SNCF: so many people want our high speed trains make them double deck!

        Also SNCF: let’s design them so badly they need 10 minutes to board

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        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

          Total chaos boarding the TGV Duplex at Est

          High clueless tourist % who can’t find their seats, not helped by lousy signage on board

          SNCF: so many people want our high speed trains make them double deck!

          Also SNCF: let’s design them so badly they need 10 minutes to board

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          #10

          And two passengers with headscarves, and three ethnic minority people in my carriage

          I can guess now who the Bundespolizei is going to go for in Kehl

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            And two passengers with headscarves, and three ethnic minority people in my carriage

            I can guess now who the Bundespolizei is going to go for in Kehl

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            #11

            Also - logically - I beat the rush to get to the TGV by identifying the only TGV Euroduplex in the station and waiting by that platform before SNCF announced the platform to everyone else 😀

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            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

              Also - logically - I beat the rush to get to the TGV by identifying the only TGV Euroduplex in the station and waiting by that platform before SNCF announced the platform to everyone else 😀

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              #12

              Very unpleasant situation in the TGV

              Woman in front of me gets on, slams down the window blind that covers both windows

              I - annoyed - because I want to look out, push it back and tell her in French that she’s not alone, and she should ask

              5 minutes later she pushes it down again 1/2

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              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                Very unpleasant situation in the TGV

                Woman in front of me gets on, slams down the window blind that covers both windows

                I - annoyed - because I want to look out, push it back and tell her in French that she’s not alone, and she should ask

                5 minutes later she pushes it down again 1/2

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                #13

                I then in French tell her she can go find another seat if she likes

                She then tells me I should find another seat, and accuses me of being selfish

                Adults - I tell her - negotiate to sort these things out between them

                She gets even more annoyed

                I tell her - still in French - her righteousness is very French

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                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                  I then in French tell her she can go find another seat if she likes

                  She then tells me I should find another seat, and accuses me of being selfish

                  Adults - I tell her - negotiate to sort these things out between them

                  She gets even more annoyed

                  I tell her - still in French - her righteousness is very French

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                  #14

                  And your behaviour is very German! she screams back at me

                  No I say, in Germany passengers would not get into an argument about this

                  Your wrong she then argues back. I’ve never encountered a passenger as arrogant as you she says

                  Trust me lady, I’ve travelled by train a bit, and I’ve seen few as arrogant as you

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                  • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                    And your behaviour is very German! she screams back at me

                    No I say, in Germany passengers would not get into an argument about this

                    Your wrong she then argues back. I’ve never encountered a passenger as arrogant as you she says

                    Trust me lady, I’ve travelled by train a bit, and I’ve seen few as arrogant as you

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                    #15

                    By now the train is on the high speed line and 🥁 the sun isn’t on her any more anyway 😀

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                    • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                      By now the train is on the high speed line and 🥁 the sun isn’t on her any more anyway 😀

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                      #16

                      Also ultimately here neither position - blind up or down - is more right or wrong. There are cases for either. You negotiate such things

                      But this other passenger assumed her way was the only way, and had not even thought there was another outcome

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                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                        Also ultimately here neither position - blind up or down - is more right or wrong. There are cases for either. You negotiate such things

                        But this other passenger assumed her way was the only way, and had not even thought there was another outcome

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                        #17

                        Ha

                        Someone walks along the corridor and at the moment the person passes the lady who argued with me about the window blind the train violently shakes, and the person falls towards her (totally not that person's fault), but that pisses her off too

                        It's not her day 😀

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          Ha

                          Someone walks along the corridor and at the moment the person passes the lady who argued with me about the window blind the train violently shakes, and the person falls towards her (totally not that person's fault), but that pisses her off too

                          It's not her day 😀

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                          #18

                          #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 62 of 158
                          TGV 9551
                          09:06 Paris Est - Frankfurt (Main) Hbf 12:59
                          SNCF Voyageurs, DB Fernverkehr

                          Train type: Alstom TGV Euroduplex, 8 short double deck carriages
                          ⚡️ (25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                          🚲: ⛔️
                          🦽: ✅ (step free into train, lift down inside)
                          🛜: ✅ (something is weird with it though, very patchy)
                          🍽️: ✅
                          🧳: ☹️ (poor design)
                          🧽: 🙂

                          🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €19)

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                          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                            #CrossBorderRail Finale Train 62 of 158
                            TGV 9551
                            09:06 Paris Est - Frankfurt (Main) Hbf 12:59
                            SNCF Voyageurs, DB Fernverkehr

                            Train type: Alstom TGV Euroduplex, 8 short double deck carriages
                            ⚡️ (25kV ac, 15kV ac)
                            🚲: ⛔️
                            🦽: ✅ (step free into train, lift down inside)
                            🛜: ✅ (something is weird with it though, very patchy)
                            🍽️: ✅
                            🧳: ☹️ (poor design)
                            🧽: 🙂

                            🎫 Interrail: 😐 (needs compulsory reservation, costs €19)

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                            #19

                            TGV 9551
                            09:06 Paris Est - Frankfurt (Main) Hbf (via Saarbrücken) 12:59

                            Distance: 589.8km
                            Average speed: 152km/h

                            5 stops:
                            Forbach
                            Saarbrücken Hbf
                            Kaiserslautern Hbf
                            Mannheim Hbf
                            Frankfurt(Main)Hbf

                            This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/49.493/5.512

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                            • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                              TGV 9551
                              09:06 Paris Est - Frankfurt (Main) Hbf (via Saarbrücken) 12:59

                              Distance: 589.8km
                              Average speed: 152km/h

                              5 stops:
                              Forbach
                              Saarbrücken Hbf
                              Kaiserslautern Hbf
                              Mannheim Hbf
                              Frankfurt(Main)Hbf

                              This train, mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-2025-finale_1163738#8/49.493/5.512

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                              #20

                              Meanwhile via @LachAnonym news about a line I visited a fortnight ago: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/skpl-rezygnuje-z-pociagow-do-chyrowa-kolejne-problemy-prawne--123834.html

                              Services through Krościenko 🇵🇱 - Smolnica 🇺🇦 to Khyriv will not start, which honestly doesn't surprise me as the infra is so bad

                              Malhowice 🇵🇱 - Nyzhankovychi 🇺🇦 would be a better bet, but SKPL has its depot on the other line...

                              Borders here: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#9/49.6241/22.6497

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                              • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                Meanwhile via @LachAnonym news about a line I visited a fortnight ago: https://www.rynek-kolejowy.pl/wiadomosci/skpl-rezygnuje-z-pociagow-do-chyrowa-kolejne-problemy-prawne--123834.html

                                Services through Krościenko 🇵🇱 - Smolnica 🇺🇦 to Khyriv will not start, which honestly doesn't surprise me as the infra is so bad

                                Malhowice 🇵🇱 - Nyzhankovychi 🇺🇦 would be a better bet, but SKPL has its depot on the other line...

                                Borders here: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/crossborderrail-all-the-borders_935041#9/49.6241/22.6497

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                                #21

                                Meanwhile re. the window blind argument: the blind is 80% open, because the sun is now high enough to not shine on the other passenger's laptop

                                (Which I knew would happen, because I know the geographic arrangement of LGV Est, and I am sat downstairs in the Duplex)

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                                • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                  Meanwhile re. the window blind argument: the blind is 80% open, because the sun is now high enough to not shine on the other passenger's laptop

                                  (Which I knew would happen, because I know the geographic arrangement of LGV Est, and I am sat downstairs in the Duplex)

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                                  #22

                                  Ok here we go

                                  Forbach, last French station

                                  Two Bundespolizei ready to board…

                                  🤔 Unlike at Kehl are they going to be clever enough to control while the train is moving?

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                                    Ok here we go

                                    Forbach, last French station

                                    Two Bundespolizei ready to board…

                                    🤔 Unlike at Kehl are they going to be clever enough to control while the train is moving?

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                                    #23

                                    Ah

                                    Now another passenger with a headscarf boards at Saarbrücken

                                    If the Bubdespolizei control her… that’s going to be interesting

                                    (But my guess is they’ve walked through upstairs and won’t come down)

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                                      Ah

                                      Now another passenger with a headscarf boards at Saarbrücken

                                      If the Bubdespolizei control her… that’s going to be interesting

                                      (But my guess is they’ve walked through upstairs and won’t come down)

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                                      #24

                                      And we have a posse of German retired people talking loudly. That’s very German 😀

                                      And we‘re moving - without further delay

                                      These controls (or not) are weird

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                                      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                        And we have a posse of German retired people talking loudly. That’s very German 😀

                                        And we‘re moving - without further delay

                                        These controls (or not) are weird

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                                        #25

                                        Counting my railway lives here…

                                        🐈‍⬛ 🐈‍⬛ ❌

                                        Diversion via Darmstadt from Mannheim… it’s going to add 20 mins

                                        But I should still get the connection in Frankfurt

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                                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                                          Counting my railway lives here…

                                          🐈‍⬛ 🐈‍⬛ ❌

                                          Diversion via Darmstadt from Mannheim… it’s going to add 20 mins

                                          But I should still get the connection in Frankfurt

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                                          #26

                                          Ahhhh

                                          ✅ Got to Frankfurt with enough time to get my onward train
                                          🧳 Three elderly passengers couldn’t shift their bags in the heat, so I helped them - while other passengers kept an eye on my bags
                                          🌈 ICE is here

                                          All’s good! 👍

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