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  • vorortanleiter@rail.chatV vorortanleiter@rail.chat

    @jon @wrzlbrnft there used to be a Ostrava - Warszawa train (early morning from Ostrava, back in the evening) which bypassed Bohumin, if I remember correctly.
    Currently this train (EC 110/111) starts/terminates only at Bohumin.

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    #27

    @vorortanleiter @wrzlbrnft it seems the Regiojet Warszawa - Praha takes that curve. Bypassing Bohumin.

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      #28

      @elba013.bsky.social Not quite the same but close 🙂 https://www.flickr.com/photos/jonworth-eu/52920010778/in/album-72177720307617222 I have been there!

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      • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

        And damn there is another one

        DG Regio lists
        Helsingør [DK] - Helsingborg [SE]
        the former rail ferry, and mentioned as a future location of a bridge or tunnel

        But if I include former train ferries where am I going to stop?

        Or are they eventually going to put a fixed link there? 🤔

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        #29

        @jon would a bridge tunnel there make sense? I could imagine the location being interesting for freight. But how much is Copenhagen-Malmö at capacity?

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        • vermeer@mstdn.socialV vermeer@mstdn.social

          @jon would a bridge tunnel there make sense? I could imagine the location being interesting for freight. But how much is Copenhagen-Malmö at capacity?

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          #30

          @vermeer @jon there are at least two competing proposals (Helsingborg-Helsingör and Landskrona-Copenhagen), a number of prestudies and quite some local lobbying for a fixed link there, but no real work being done on a national level (on either side) since maybe 2020 or so. Malmö-Copenhagen is expected to reach max capacity before too long

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          • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

            OK, these are the "ideas"/ "plans" for new #CrossBorderRail lines in Europe where the location of the border crossing is new

            Bussoleno 🇮🇹 - St Jean de Maurienne 🇫🇷 (Torino-Lyon)
            Grafing 🇩🇪 - Langkampfen 🇦🇹 (Brenner Nordzulauf)
            Heidenau-Süd 🇩🇪 - Ústí nad Labem západ 🇨🇿 (Future HSL Berlin-Praha)
            Helsingør 🇩🇰 - Helsingborg 🇸🇪 (Fixed link idea)
            Helsinki 🇫🇮 - Tallinn 🇪🇪 (Rail Baltica tunnel)
            Innsbruck 🇦🇹 - Fortezza 🇮🇹 (Brenner Base Tunnel)
            Mszana 🇵🇱 - Bohumín 🇨🇿 (CZ-PL CPK)
            Mockava 🇱🇹 - Trakiszki 🇵🇱 (Rail Baltica)

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            #31

            @jon I have seen (regional) politicians promoting Huelva - Vila Real de Santo António. But maybe that’s too far fetched in this bunch?

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            • stefanlindbohm@mastodon.socialS stefanlindbohm@mastodon.social

              @jon I have seen (regional) politicians promoting Huelva - Vila Real de Santo António. But maybe that’s too far fetched in this bunch?

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              @stefanlindbohm that is in already, and I went there! 🙂

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                #33

                @pglux.bsky.social Good idea! Will add

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                  @pglux.bsky.social What happened to the St Julien tram idea? https://www.grand-geneve.org/projects/tram-geneve-plan-les-ouates-saint-julien__trashed/

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                  • leo_wallentin@mastodon.socialL leo_wallentin@mastodon.social

                    @vermeer @jon there are at least two competing proposals (Helsingborg-Helsingör and Landskrona-Copenhagen), a number of prestudies and quite some local lobbying for a fixed link there, but no real work being done on a national level (on either side) since maybe 2020 or so. Malmö-Copenhagen is expected to reach max capacity before too long

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                    #35

                    @leo_wallentin @jon yes I can imagine that more freight might come after fehmarnbelt is built. But so far it seems like German side of that link is the biggest question mark

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                      #36

                      @pglux.bsky.social The public comms about it is very poor. But I will go there in a few weeks (by bike)

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                      • vermeer@mstdn.socialV vermeer@mstdn.social

                        @leo_wallentin @jon yes I can imagine that more freight might come after fehmarnbelt is built. But so far it seems like German side of that link is the biggest question mark

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                        @vermeer @jon Oh, the Södra stambanan mainline (SE) is going to be a HUGE bottleneck as well (and plans for new mainlines have been scrapped. A number of smaller projects to increase capacity is in planning though)

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                        • jon@gruene.socialJ jon@gruene.social

                          @acb Those are too far fetched I think yes

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                          #38

                          @jon
                          I agree. I think the Gedser-Rostock connection was mainly put in play to confuse the discussion and delay/stop the Fehmarn plans.

                          The Fehmarn project will leave us with a nice big tunnel element factory, but the Danes itching to reuse it are mainly looking at a Kattegat link, which will not be croas-border.
                          @acb

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