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I got a call from someone I don't know.

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  • bladecoder@androiddev.socialB bladecoder@androiddev.social

    @stefano Reminds me of this

    stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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    #105

    @bladecoder totally!

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    • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

      @stefano I think folks really have a lack of value for our profession because it's "computer skills".

      It's the same attitude as "oh it's just plumbing" and before you know it you're knee deep in dirty water.

      No matter how desperate we are for money, we must value our time. And like just get a plumber in.

      We don't have to be good at everything. It's a chance to get to know folks and you never know the plumber might know a business that need your professional help.

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      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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      #106

      @onepict True. Years ago, "it's an easy task! The 12 years old son of my friend could do it".
      My reply was: "Let him do that, but don't call me when everything will be gone".

      At times, it happened. Sometimes, they just went out of business.

      jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ onepict@chaos.socialO 2 Replies Last reply
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      • bsdtv@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bsdtv@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        I agree with the group here,@stefano. They did you a massive favor. You do not want this client. That nastiness at the end of the call is just their own unforeseen (by them ) consequences coming home to roost.

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        stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #107

        @bsdtv I agree. I mean: I'm a consultant, so I'm open to consulting. But if you're paying a lot of money to [BIGTECH] that messed up, find me because someone (or the Internet) told you I can fix it and you want to pay me just some spare change, you'd better continue with your useless and disruptive token-burning agent.

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        • kktk@toot.lvK kktk@toot.lv

          @stefano I think this story then tells how good is FreeBSD documentation.

          stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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          stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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          #108

          @kktk the documentation is good - but they need to read it first 🙂

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          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            @bsdtv I agree. I mean: I'm a consultant, so I'm open to consulting. But if you're paying a lot of money to [BIGTECH] that messed up, find me because someone (or the Internet) told you I can fix it and you want to pay me just some spare change, you'd better continue with your useless and disruptive token-burning agent.

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            bsdtv@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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            #109

            @stefano exactly. And we all know what doing * the exact same thing over and over * and expecting a different result is a sign of! Be well my friend!

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            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              I got a call from someone I don't know.

              "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

              "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

              "That much?"

              Some silence.

              "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

              Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

              I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

              #IT #SysAdmin

              donhawkins@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #110

              @stefano @rolle And just think, Carrot Caligula wants to rename it “Super Intelligence” 🙄

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              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                I got a call from someone I don't know.

                "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                "That much?"

                Some silence.

                "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                #IT #SysAdmin

                jippie64@social.vivaldi.netJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                jippie64@social.vivaldi.net
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                #111

                @stefano 😂

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                • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  I got a call from someone I don't know.

                  "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                  "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                  "That much?"

                  Some silence.

                  "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                  Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                  I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                  #IT #SysAdmin

                  theothersimo@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  theothersimo@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #112

                  @stefano you’re charging the same amount to rescue my truck that I spent getting it stuck? Outrageous!

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                  • theothersimo@mastodon.socialT theothersimo@mastodon.social

                    @stefano you’re charging the same amount to rescue my truck that I spent getting it stuck? Outrageous!

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                    stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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                    #113

                    @theothersimo This is a good comparison

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                    • bladecoder@androiddev.socialB bladecoder@androiddev.social

                      @stefano Reminds me of this

                      boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #114

                      @bladecoder @stefano This particular image is AI generated.

                      The original was about graphic design, not code.

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                      • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        I got a call from someone I don't know.

                        "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                        "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                        "That much?"

                        Some silence.

                        "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                        Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                        I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                        #IT #SysAdmin

                        blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #115

                        @stefano the audacity 🤨

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                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          @onepict True. Years ago, "it's an easy task! The 12 years old son of my friend could do it".
                          My reply was: "Let him do that, but don't call me when everything will be gone".

                          At times, it happened. Sometimes, they just went out of business.

                          jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
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                          #116

                          @stefano I've walked out of exactly that conversation a few times, yes. @onepict

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                          • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                            @nuintari @stefano

                            This AI crap is almost enough to make me consider going back into consulting.

                            The power in any negotiation goes to the person most willing to walk away. Companies trashed by AI cannot walk away.

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                            #117

                            @mwl @nuintari @stefano I've never done it full-time, but I'm considering it. (I'd love to start a co-op, but I haven't sat down to map anything out.) But "I will unfuck your AI nonsense" seems like it could be a good niche.

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                            • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @onepict True. Years ago, "it's an easy task! The 12 years old son of my friend could do it".
                              My reply was: "Let him do that, but don't call me when everything will be gone".

                              At times, it happened. Sometimes, they just went out of business.

                              onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                              onepict@chaos.social
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                              #118

                              @stefano Years ago we had a packet storm in our office which was a nightmare of hubs hanging off hubs, hanging off hubs.

                              I literally had to get everyone off the network and find the offending printer someone plugged in. Then get each department to log back in on a staggered scale.

                              Couple of weeks later and an engineer went oh I run a network at home. "Yeah how big?" I ask him, "5".

                              With restraint I told him that this site alone had 150 pcs and we had other sites in the city.

                              He shut up.

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                              • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                                @stefano Years ago we had a packet storm in our office which was a nightmare of hubs hanging off hubs, hanging off hubs.

                                I literally had to get everyone off the network and find the offending printer someone plugged in. Then get each department to log back in on a staggered scale.

                                Couple of weeks later and an engineer went oh I run a network at home. "Yeah how big?" I ask him, "5".

                                With restraint I told him that this site alone had 150 pcs and we had other sites in the city.

                                He shut up.

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                                onepict@chaos.social
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                                #119

                                @stefano All that because the office didn't want to invest in a rewire and more switches.

                                stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV 2 Replies Last reply
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                                • boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io

                                  @bladecoder @stefano This particular image is AI generated.

                                  The original was about graphic design, not code.

                                  bladecoder@androiddev.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #120

                                  @BoydStephenSmithJr @stefano I'm not surprised. I don't know anything about the origin of that image but I found its message relevant.

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                                  • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                                    @stefano All that because the office didn't want to invest in a rewire and more switches.

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                                    #121

                                    @onepict Many of the problems customers have are related to lack of (small) investment in hardware or proper planning. The most difficult part is making them understand that they'll pay it, sooner or later, with interest and a lot of wasted time.

                                    Luckily, many understand it and plan accordingly.

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                                    • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                                      @stefano All that because the office didn't want to invest in a rewire and more switches.

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                                      #122

                                      @onepict @stefano I don't know if corporate law is same in mainland Europe as UK, but there's a lot of "serial entrepreneurs" around who will simply let their business burn and walk away from all the creditors (using limited liability as a way of avoiding personal consequences) rather than do things properly or hire the right people.

                                      And its not just in tech but across the board, to the point I do full audits on any suppliers I deal with, checking Companies House and all sorts (including any personal info I can find out about the directors)

                                      AI is going to unearth way more of these, albeit with quite a bit of collateral damage along the line..

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                                      • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                                        @onepict @stefano I don't know if corporate law is same in mainland Europe as UK, but there's a lot of "serial entrepreneurs" around who will simply let their business burn and walk away from all the creditors (using limited liability as a way of avoiding personal consequences) rather than do things properly or hire the right people.

                                        And its not just in tech but across the board, to the point I do full audits on any suppliers I deal with, checking Companies House and all sorts (including any personal info I can find out about the directors)

                                        AI is going to unearth way more of these, albeit with quite a bit of collateral damage along the line..

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                                        #123

                                        @vfrmedia @onepict One of the things I could never understand is running a business you really don't understand or don't care about.

                                        I do the job I love, and I have a tiny company because I want to be the boss of myself and suggest my customers the solutions I believe in.

                                        Running an IT company only for making money and for a short period of time sounds, to me, quite bad.

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                                        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @vfrmedia @onepict One of the things I could never understand is running a business you really don't understand or don't care about.

                                          I do the job I love, and I have a tiny company because I want to be the boss of myself and suggest my customers the solutions I believe in.

                                          Running an IT company only for making money and for a short period of time sounds, to me, quite bad.

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                                          #124

                                          @stefano @onepict in Britain a lot of them don't start off bad or dishonest, but are so focused on constant growth they take on more work than they can support.

                                          I've seen it with online services (we've been through 4 different care planning systems at work in 20 years because the small companies making them burned out), same with SMEs selling VOIP hardware (I seem to need a new one each time), also see this with automotive stuff (the place I got my last car from enshittified itself chasing after larger sales volumes and it was already creaking at the seams when I bought the car), and places like Amazon end up winning more business as for all their faults they do deliver stuff on time on more occasions..

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