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  • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    I got a call from someone I don't know.

    "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

    "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

    "That much?"

    Some silence.

    "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

    Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

    I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

    #IT #SysAdmin

    theothersimo@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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    theothersimo@mastodon.social
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #112

    @stefano you’re charging the same amount to rescue my truck that I spent getting it stuck? Outrageous!

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    • theothersimo@mastodon.socialT theothersimo@mastodon.social

      @stefano you’re charging the same amount to rescue my truck that I spent getting it stuck? Outrageous!

      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
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      #113

      @theothersimo This is a good comparison

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      • bladecoder@androiddev.socialB bladecoder@androiddev.social

        @stefano Reminds me of this

        boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #114

        @bladecoder @stefano This particular image is AI generated.

        The original was about graphic design, not code.

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        • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          I got a call from someone I don't know.

          "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

          "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

          "That much?"

          Some silence.

          "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

          Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

          I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

          #IT #SysAdmin

          blogdiva@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          blogdiva@mastodon.social
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          #115

          @stefano the audacity 🤨

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          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            @onepict True. Years ago, "it's an easy task! The 12 years old son of my friend could do it".
            My reply was: "Let him do that, but don't call me when everything will be gone".

            At times, it happened. Sometimes, they just went out of business.

            jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
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            #116

            @stefano I've walked out of exactly that conversation a few times, yes. @onepict

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            • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

              @nuintari @stefano

              This AI crap is almost enough to make me consider going back into consulting.

              The power in any negotiation goes to the person most willing to walk away. Companies trashed by AI cannot walk away.

              theorangetheme@en.osm.townT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #117

              @mwl @nuintari @stefano I've never done it full-time, but I'm considering it. (I'd love to start a co-op, but I haven't sat down to map anything out.) But "I will unfuck your AI nonsense" seems like it could be a good niche.

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              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @onepict True. Years ago, "it's an easy task! The 12 years old son of my friend could do it".
                My reply was: "Let him do that, but don't call me when everything will be gone".

                At times, it happened. Sometimes, they just went out of business.

                onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #118

                @stefano Years ago we had a packet storm in our office which was a nightmare of hubs hanging off hubs, hanging off hubs.

                I literally had to get everyone off the network and find the offending printer someone plugged in. Then get each department to log back in on a staggered scale.

                Couple of weeks later and an engineer went oh I run a network at home. "Yeah how big?" I ask him, "5".

                With restraint I told him that this site alone had 150 pcs and we had other sites in the city.

                He shut up.

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                • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                  @stefano Years ago we had a packet storm in our office which was a nightmare of hubs hanging off hubs, hanging off hubs.

                  I literally had to get everyone off the network and find the offending printer someone plugged in. Then get each department to log back in on a staggered scale.

                  Couple of weeks later and an engineer went oh I run a network at home. "Yeah how big?" I ask him, "5".

                  With restraint I told him that this site alone had 150 pcs and we had other sites in the city.

                  He shut up.

                  onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #119

                  @stefano All that because the office didn't want to invest in a rewire and more switches.

                  stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io

                    @bladecoder @stefano This particular image is AI generated.

                    The original was about graphic design, not code.

                    bladecoder@androiddev.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #120

                    @BoydStephenSmithJr @stefano I'm not surprised. I don't know anything about the origin of that image but I found its message relevant.

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                    • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                      @stefano All that because the office didn't want to invest in a rewire and more switches.

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                      stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #121

                      @onepict Many of the problems customers have are related to lack of (small) investment in hardware or proper planning. The most difficult part is making them understand that they'll pay it, sooner or later, with interest and a lot of wasted time.

                      Luckily, many understand it and plan accordingly.

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                      • onepict@chaos.socialO onepict@chaos.social

                        @stefano All that because the office didn't want to invest in a rewire and more switches.

                        vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV This user is from outside of this forum
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                        vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de
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                        #122

                        @onepict @stefano I don't know if corporate law is same in mainland Europe as UK, but there's a lot of "serial entrepreneurs" around who will simply let their business burn and walk away from all the creditors (using limited liability as a way of avoiding personal consequences) rather than do things properly or hire the right people.

                        And its not just in tech but across the board, to the point I do full audits on any suppliers I deal with, checking Companies House and all sorts (including any personal info I can find out about the directors)

                        AI is going to unearth way more of these, albeit with quite a bit of collateral damage along the line..

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                        • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

                          @onepict @stefano I don't know if corporate law is same in mainland Europe as UK, but there's a lot of "serial entrepreneurs" around who will simply let their business burn and walk away from all the creditors (using limited liability as a way of avoiding personal consequences) rather than do things properly or hire the right people.

                          And its not just in tech but across the board, to the point I do full audits on any suppliers I deal with, checking Companies House and all sorts (including any personal info I can find out about the directors)

                          AI is going to unearth way more of these, albeit with quite a bit of collateral damage along the line..

                          stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #123

                          @vfrmedia @onepict One of the things I could never understand is running a business you really don't understand or don't care about.

                          I do the job I love, and I have a tiny company because I want to be the boss of myself and suggest my customers the solutions I believe in.

                          Running an IT company only for making money and for a short period of time sounds, to me, quite bad.

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                          • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @vfrmedia @onepict One of the things I could never understand is running a business you really don't understand or don't care about.

                            I do the job I love, and I have a tiny company because I want to be the boss of myself and suggest my customers the solutions I believe in.

                            Running an IT company only for making money and for a short period of time sounds, to me, quite bad.

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                            #124

                            @stefano @onepict in Britain a lot of them don't start off bad or dishonest, but are so focused on constant growth they take on more work than they can support.

                            I've seen it with online services (we've been through 4 different care planning systems at work in 20 years because the small companies making them burned out), same with SMEs selling VOIP hardware (I seem to need a new one each time), also see this with automotive stuff (the place I got my last car from enshittified itself chasing after larger sales volumes and it was already creaking at the seams when I bought the car), and places like Amazon end up winning more business as for all their faults they do deliver stuff on time on more occasions..

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                            • mwl@io.mwl.ioM mwl@io.mwl.io

                              @nuintari @stefano

                              This AI crap is almost enough to make me consider going back into consulting.

                              The power in any negotiation goes to the person most willing to walk away. Companies trashed by AI cannot walk away.

                              theonedoc@tech.lgbtT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #125

                              @mwl @nuintari @stefano wait a bit longer it's going to be a bloodbath when the bubble pops

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                              • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                "That much?"

                                Some silence.

                                "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                #IT #SysAdmin

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                                ruenahcmohr@infosec.exchange
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                                #126

                                @stefano "it didn't even make a backup" hahaha, Maybe taking some responsibility for letting a know-it-all 5 year-old at your infrastructure would be a good start!

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                                • boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.ioB boydstephensmithjr@hachyderm.io

                                  @bladecoder @stefano This particular image is AI generated.

                                  The original was about graphic design, not code.

                                  trebor@types.plT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #127

                                  @BoydStephenSmithJr @bladecoder @stefano I know the original photo so I knew this was modified, but how do you see it is AI generated instead of photoshopped?

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                                  • somebody@circumstances.runS somebody@circumstances.run

                                    @wizbean @stefano Telling the clanker to just fuck my shit up zero hesitation without even considering a manual backup first.

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                                    #128

                                    @somebody @wizbean @stefano

                                    When I worked on the ships, our Logistics office had a "Failure to plan ahead on your part, will not result in an emergency on mine" sign on the wall.

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                                    • stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafeS stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      I got a call from someone I don't know.

                                      "Hi. We have a FreeBSD server. It's been working perfectly for years, but it hasn't been updated since then. We asked AI to update it, but now it won't boot anymore. It didn't even make a backup before starting. The AI keeps trying things, everything is down, and we've already spent over €500 in tokens. Can you help us?"

                                      "Sure. €500, plus the time it'll take me to try to fix it. Assuming it can still be fixed and nothing important has been deleted."

                                      "That much?"

                                      Some silence.

                                      "Well, I hope AI takes your job away!" And he hung up.

                                      Believing that autopilot automatically makes you an invulnerable professional pilot will ruin far more people than job losses will.

                                      I don't know if AI will take my job away, but it's already cost them €500 and, probably, their server.

                                      #IT #SysAdmin

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                                      #129

                                      @stefano The call tomorrow: "Hi, I've already spent €1500 on tokens and it's still down and I need your help. Are you still available for €500?" "No, I'm sorry, now it'll cost €1500."

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                                      • robotdiver@starlite.rodeoR robotdiver@starlite.rodeo

                                        @somebody @wizbean @stefano

                                        When I worked on the ships, our Logistics office had a "Failure to plan ahead on your part, will not result in an emergency on mine" sign on the wall.

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                                        #130

                                        @somebody @wizbean @stefano

                                        Funny how the person who always needs it the most is always the biggest asshole

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                                        • trebor@types.plT trebor@types.pl

                                          @BoydStephenSmithJr @bladecoder @stefano I know the original photo so I knew this was modified, but how do you see it is AI generated instead of photoshopped?

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                                          #131

                                          @trebor @stefano Last time I saw it, I search up and linked the original and got a reply indicating there was some metadata / signature of a particular generative AI that was in the image.

                                          I'll try searching my history, but I don't know how long ago that was.

                                          EDIT: https://sfba.social/@drahardja/117244750291481005

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