> We are completely overwhelmed, of course.
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imagine traveling back to 2001 and going “nah the kernel doesn’t really matter” around any of these people
they’d cut you with a fucking knife
@zzt the people of 2001 had been violently disabused of this notion before it could form by the infliction of Windows ME and its garbage-ass kernel.
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do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel
@zzt "Are we the baddies" walked so that "Thank you Meta" could run.
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@hipsterelectron also you’re going to hate the elisp I’m writing
but crucially it’ll probably be done enough to share soon
@zzt counterpoint: all elisp is holy
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@otte_homan I don’t think any of the kernel devs have the capability of having ideas anymore, their brains are dripping out of their ears live on the lkml
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do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel
Clearly the kernel doesn't matter because we're all just running everything in a virtual little box that can't see anything else and the kernel is in fact just a host for endless amounts of these boxes and nobody ever actually runs software natively right? In fact clearly the web browser should just be the kernel right? Nobody has ever used "software" before, just "apps" and apps live on the web, right? Guys I'm a fuckin genius give me 10 splebtillion dollars I have invented the future of computing. /s
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@zzt we are so fucked
things fall apart, the kernel cannot hold
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@zzt the people of 2001 had been violently disabused of this notion before it could form by the infliction of Windows ME and its garbage-ass kernel.
@zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
Apparently learning from the mistakes of the past which taught us that kernels do in fact matter quite a bit is weak and "social warrior" shit and we should just be ok if the thing All of Software runs on by definition just becomes a useless and broken pile of shit because they let the chatbot rewrite it all based on a plagiarized version of itself.
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@zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
Apparently learning from the mistakes of the past which taught us that kernels do in fact matter quite a bit is weak and "social warrior" shit and we should just be ok if the thing All of Software runs on by definition just becomes a useless and broken pile of shit because they let the chatbot rewrite it all based on a plagiarized version of itself.
@zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
Even when translating to what the phrase is poorly trying to pretend to be different from, I have absolutely no fucking clue what "social warrior project" is meant to convey because "social justice warrior project" is just not a phrase I can make any sense out of. It doesn't scan at all.
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@zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
Even when translating to what the phrase is poorly trying to pretend to be different from, I have absolutely no fucking clue what "social warrior project" is meant to convey because "social justice warrior project" is just not a phrase I can make any sense out of. It doesn't scan at all.
@daemonspudguy @zzt I mean, also isn’t the idea of a high-quality kernel that supports older hardware (I know they just dropped like first-gen Pentiums and there was some furor over it) all free of charge kind of a social good thing if not social “justice”?
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@zzt do you remember when that was a new thing and we literally couldn't believe it could be that bad?
and now we just can't believe it's still that bad.
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@daemonspudguy @zzt I mean, also isn’t the idea of a high-quality kernel that supports older hardware (I know they just dropped like first-gen Pentiums and there was some furor over it) all free of charge kind of a social good thing if not social “justice”?
@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt this is why netbsd is hero coded
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@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt this is why netbsd is hero coded
@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i have no clue how well gentoo hurd will end up working but i'm hopeful
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do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel
@zzt This is just the natural outcome.
The real red flags where when IBM (that is working into AI from more than a decade) buyed Red Hat and when they pushed madly a broken systemD as the usual "it's the FuTuRe" in the same guise they are pushing Wayland... that isn't really ready yet either for a lot of cases.
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@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i have no clue how well gentoo hurd will end up working but i'm hopeful
@zzt@mas.to @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
God I hope it somehow sparks a revival in the Hurd. Purely because microkernels are just better and I selfishly want my preferred technology to be proven in the desktop. /hj
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@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt this is why netbsd is hero coded
@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt it's also like the only OS that has rejected LLMs and i think there's a reason for that
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@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt it's also like the only OS that has rejected LLMs and i think there's a reason for that
@hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io
We stan NetBSD here.
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@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i have no clue how well gentoo hurd will end up working but i'm hopeful
@hipsterelectron @daemonspudguy @zzt I’m sure it’s got some Hurd-les in front of it :rimshot:
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@hipsterelectron @daemonspudguy @zzt neat!
This does give me pause: “amd64 support exists in Gentoo but it is less stable so far than x86.”
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@hipsterelectron @daemonspudguy @zzt neat!
This does give me pause: “amd64 support exists in Gentoo but it is less stable so far than x86.”
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd@c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i don't know how to evaluate that without further context but "so far" indicates it is a subject of active research
