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  • zzt@mas.toZ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #25

    @otte_homan I don’t think any of the kernel devs have the capability of having ideas anymore, their brains are dripping out of their ears live on the lkml

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel

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      #26

      @zzt@mas.to

      Clearly the kernel doesn't matter because we're all just running everything in a virtual little box that can't see anything else and the kernel is in fact just a host for endless amounts of these boxes and nobody ever actually runs software natively right? In fact clearly the web browser should just be the kernel right? Nobody has ever used "software" before, just "apps" and apps live on the web, right? Guys I'm a fuckin genius give me 10 splebtillion dollars I have invented the future of computing. /s

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      • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

        @zzt we are so fucked

        things fall apart, the kernel cannot hold

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        #27

        @bstacey @zzt the end of that stanza:
        “The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
        The best lack all conviction , while the worst
        Are full of passionate intensity.”

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        • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

          @bstacey @zzt the end of that stanza:
          “The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
          The best lack all conviction , while the worst
          Are full of passionate intensity.”

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          #28

          @bstacey @zzt just wanted to write code and play video games, man… instead there’s slop in my editor, and the fork of my editor, and in my kernel…

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          • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

            @zzt the people of 2001 had been violently disabused of this notion before it could form by the infliction of Windows ME and its garbage-ass kernel.

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            #29

            @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

            Apparently learning from the mistakes of the past which taught us that kernels do in fact matter quite a bit is weak and "social warrior" shit and we should just be ok if the thing All of Software runs on by definition just becomes a useless and broken pile of shit because they let the chatbot rewrite it all based on a plagiarized version of itself.

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            • daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net

              @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

              Apparently learning from the mistakes of the past which taught us that kernels do in fact matter quite a bit is weak and "social warrior" shit and we should just be ok if the thing All of Software runs on by definition just becomes a useless and broken pile of shit because they let the chatbot rewrite it all based on a plagiarized version of itself.

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              #30

              @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

              Even when translating to what the phrase is poorly trying to pretend to be different from, I have absolutely no fucking clue what "social warrior project" is meant to convey because "social justice warrior project" is just not a phrase I can make any sense out of. It doesn't scan at all.

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              • daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net

                @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                Even when translating to what the phrase is poorly trying to pretend to be different from, I have absolutely no fucking clue what "social warrior project" is meant to convey because "social justice warrior project" is just not a phrase I can make any sense out of. It doesn't scan at all.

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                #31

                @daemonspudguy @zzt I mean, also isn’t the idea of a high-quality kernel that supports older hardware (I know they just dropped like first-gen Pentiums and there was some furor over it) all free of charge kind of a social good thing if not social “justice”?

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                • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

                  @zzt do you remember when that was a new thing and we literally couldn't believe it could be that bad?

                  and now we just can't believe it's still that bad.

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                  #32

                  @dysfun @zzt

                  Pessimistically, I am just dreading however they make it worse. This is gonna go just peachy, I'm sure.

                  tired of this shit

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                  • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                    @daemonspudguy @zzt I mean, also isn’t the idea of a high-quality kernel that supports older hardware (I know they just dropped like first-gen Pentiums and there was some furor over it) all free of charge kind of a social good thing if not social “justice”?

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                    #33

                    @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt this is why netbsd is hero coded

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                    • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                      @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt this is why netbsd is hero coded

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                      #34

                      @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i have no clue how well gentoo hurd will end up working but i'm hopeful

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                      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                        do you think any of the guys telling me I’m engaging in conspiratorial thought or whatever for pointing out who’s paying torvalds to do this shit will feel anything at all when they read “thank you Meta” in this bizarre fucking post? nah can’t be anything, the Linux Foundation doesn’t own the kernel somehow even though they own the guy who owns the kernel

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                        #35

                        @zzt This is just the natural outcome.
                        The real red flags where when IBM (that is working into AI from more than a decade) buyed Red Hat and when they pushed madly a broken systemD as the usual "it's the FuTuRe" in the same guise they are pushing Wayland... that isn't really ready yet either for a lot of cases.
                        With these precedents why the LLMs push is so strange? Is just a normal development for these people.

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                        • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                          @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i have no clue how well gentoo hurd will end up working but i'm hopeful

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                          #36

                          @zzt@mas.to @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                          God I hope it somehow sparks a revival in the Hurd. Purely because microkernels are just better and I selfishly want my preferred technology to be proven in the desktop. /hj

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                          • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                            @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt this is why netbsd is hero coded

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                            #37

                            @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt it's also like the only OS that has rejected LLMs and i think there's a reason for that

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                            • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                              @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt it's also like the only OS that has rejected LLMs and i think there's a reason for that

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                              #38

                              @hipsterelectron@circumstances.run @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                              We stan NetBSD here.

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                              • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i have no clue how well gentoo hurd will end up working but i'm hopeful

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                                #39

                                @hipsterelectron @daemonspudguy @zzt I’m sure it’s got some Hurd-les in front of it :rimshot:

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                                  #40

                                  @hipsterelectron @daemonspudguy @zzt neat!
                                  This does give me pause: “amd64 support exists in Gentoo but it is less stable so far than x86.”
                                  https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd

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                                  • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                    @hipsterelectron @daemonspudguy @zzt neat!
                                    This does give me pause: “amd64 support exists in Gentoo but it is less stable so far than x86.”
                                    https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Hurd

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                                    #41

                                    @c0dec0dec0de @daemonspudguy @zzt i don't know how to evaluate that without further context but "so far" indicates it is a subject of active research

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                                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                      thank you Meta, I proclaimed, filling the Linux kernel with a quote unquote overwhelming amount of fucking slop

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                                      #42

                                      @zzt thank you meta, the company so visionary it renamed itself after a market already on the way out, you have a great take on what decisions won't look terrible in the near future

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                                      • c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.ioC c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

                                        @zzt the people of 2001 had been violently disabused of this notion before it could form by the infliction of Windows ME and its garbage-ass kernel.

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                                        #43

                                        @zzt yes, I am still sore about someone who installed Windows ME on my Pentium 3.

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                                        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                          thank you Meta, I proclaimed, filling the Linux kernel with a quote unquote overwhelming amount of fucking slop

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                                          #44

                                          @zzt Thank you Meta. Since you've started spraying anorgasmia chemtrails across the planet, I'm really glad to have your ananorgasmia inhalers. My sex life has never been so not quite almost what it was before

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