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  3. I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

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  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

    I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

    It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

    I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

    Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

    rosano@mastodon.onlineR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #22

    @vkc wishing you a better experience than this 🙏🏽☀️ i think we have to make space for ourselves and our own way to do things to avoid getting swallowed by the defaults

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    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

      I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

      It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

      I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

      Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

      rosymaths@mathstodon.xyzR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #23

      @vkc @afewbugs That sucks so badly. It's why I never tried to build any kind of following while I worked in tech - whereas I feel safer speaking as a teacher. It's just too dangerous being a very visible woman in tech. 😔.
      I'm sure there are other industries with equally misogynistic people, but tech seems particularly bad.

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      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

        What I've shared today is just *annoying*. It isn't the level of malevolence that I've seen.

        I've had stuff sent my way that I have nightmares about. I won't share that crap. But annoying stuff? I'm not holding that back anymore- you-all are getting called out.

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        #24

        @vkc i've had a couple of posts blow up to genuinely large levels and have seen what you mean with the vile stuff. Makes me wonder if social media is a good idea at all.

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        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

          What I've shared today is just *annoying*. It isn't the level of malevolence that I've seen.

          I've had stuff sent my way that I have nightmares about. I won't share that crap. But annoying stuff? I'm not holding that back anymore- you-all are getting called out.

          sashin@veganism.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #25

          @vkc How would you feel about sharing the really bad stuff too but with clear content warnings?

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          • sashin@veganism.socialS sashin@veganism.social

            @vkc How would you feel about sharing the really bad stuff too but with clear content warnings?

            vkc@linuxmom.netV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #26

            @sashin I get things that are illegal if I retransmit them

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            • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

              @sashin I get things that are illegal if I retransmit them

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              #27

              @vkc I'm sorry you have to go through that.

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              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                What I've shared today is just *annoying*. It isn't the level of malevolence that I've seen.

                I've had stuff sent my way that I have nightmares about. I won't share that crap. But annoying stuff? I'm not holding that back anymore- you-all are getting called out.

                shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #28

                @vkc hey, thank you for posting here, I rediscovered your channel because of your Mastodon posts.

                For me the moderation is a big reason to be on a managed instance

                Question I had but reading your other comments suggests the answer ;D :
                One thing I wondered, did your mastodon experience change when you moved from a moderated instance to your own?

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                • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                  @McNeely I think it's unique to decentralization. If your instance blocked a baddie before they post in my replies, you don't see it and I do. In centralized social media, a mass of reports is enough to ban an account and get their posts mass-deleted. That just can't happen here.

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                  #29

                  @vkc @McNeely 100% accurate. I run a micro-instance that's likely to upset people and attract bother, and I have to set aside time to expose myself to some genuinely grotesque and upsetting stuff in order to keep on top of the servers I need to block, and we get far fewer eyeballs and interaction on us than Victoria.

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                  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                    What I've shared today is just *annoying*. It isn't the level of malevolence that I've seen.

                    I've had stuff sent my way that I have nightmares about. I won't share that crap. But annoying stuff? I'm not holding that back anymore- you-all are getting called out.

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                    #30

                    @vkc sorry about all that crap. Some people are using their anonymity to reveal their real nature that can be awful. And because they may read you every day, they think they know you intimately so they suppose they're allowed to tell you anything they want. That's difficult to ignore these haters when you're their target. I hope you'll be able to get over it.

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                    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                      I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

                      It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

                      I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

                      Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

                      claus@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #31

                      @vkc I'm sorry about how Fedi is treating you. I sometimes forget that my own Fedi bubble is benign not because Fedi as a whole is benign, but because I put in the effort to aggressively block any content I don't like, *and* I don't have a visible enough presence that would encourage the undesirables to circumvent my block list.

                      Social media can be garbage, and if you do need a break I will be sad because I enjoy your content, but please do put your own mental health first if you need to.

                      Best wishes...

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                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                        I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

                        It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

                        I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

                        Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

                        threedollarchickenparm@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #32

                        @vkc Thanks for speaking openly about this, Veronica. I cannot fully understand your situation, but I can relate to being harassed in an invisible way and I wouldn't wish that on anyone else. I wouldn't want to see you leave Fedi, but I also wouldn't blame you if you did.

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                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                          When people say "Veronica loves the Fediverse", they remove my agency from this place. I'm a character. They're the narrator. I don't like that.

                          I think for a lot of folks, Fedi is sweet. It's quiet. It's slow. But for many, many, many of us, it's this slow-rolling insanity machine where you see the WORST THINGS and nobody else does.

                          And to be frank and clear, I'm just talking about things from my white US perspective. I don't even get the worst of it, and I recognize that.

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                          #33

                          @vkc

                          You are surely frank and clear.

                          You sharing stuff like this is really valuable to me as a white, cisgendered, heterosexual, male, with a low volume account. My privileges stack in such a way that I see none of the bad actor interactions you do.

                          Thank you for sharing what those who aren't even the worst of us in the Fediverse are doing so we all can know at least that much.

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                          • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                            @McNeely I think it's unique to decentralization. If your instance blocked a baddie before they post in my replies, you don't see it and I do. In centralized social media, a mass of reports is enough to ban an account and get their posts mass-deleted. That just can't happen here.

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                            #34

                            @vkc @McNeely Perhaps reports could be federated and an instance can set it so that if an account has over a certain amount of reports posts/replies have to be manually approved?

                            Not sure how much this would help but it feels like it could help somewhat, obvs if this is a bad idea please tell me

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                            • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                              I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

                              It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

                              I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

                              Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

                              classwario@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #35

                              @vkc This platform needs more editing (and anger) aimed at it. This is my third account because I get frustrated at what it is (then come back here for what it should be).

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                              • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                @sashin I get things that are illegal if I retransmit them

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                                #36

                                @vkc @sashin i wonder if fedi has a community block list feature

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                                • shadow_glider@equestria.socialS shadow_glider@equestria.social

                                  @vkc @McNeely Perhaps reports could be federated and an instance can set it so that if an account has over a certain amount of reports posts/replies have to be manually approved?

                                  Not sure how much this would help but it feels like it could help somewhat, obvs if this is a bad idea please tell me

                                  bredroll@mas.toB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #37

                                  @Shadow_Glider @vkc @McNeely i do wonder if its more costly to manage federated or honepot blocking than the bad actors just creating more accounts

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                                  • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                    I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

                                    It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

                                    I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

                                    Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

                                    borisschapira@framapiaf.orgB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #38

                                    @vkc sorry you have to got through this. Did you notice the content to the server's admin (really asking, not saying you have to)?

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                                    • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                      What I've shared today is just *annoying*. It isn't the level of malevolence that I've seen.

                                      I've had stuff sent my way that I have nightmares about. I won't share that crap. But annoying stuff? I'm not holding that back anymore- you-all are getting called out.

                                      osma@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #39

                                      Thanks for being here, and thanks for speaking out. This won't ever get better without first acknowledging it's not good.
                                      @vkc

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                                      • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                        @McNeely I think it's unique to decentralization. If your instance blocked a baddie before they post in my replies, you don't see it and I do. In centralized social media, a mass of reports is enough to ban an account and get their posts mass-deleted. That just can't happen here.

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                                        #40

                                        @vkc @McNeely This highlights a need for more co-ordinated efforts like The Bad Space, but less manual. @Gargron How are those imported ban lists coming along?

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                                        • vkc@linuxmom.netV vkc@linuxmom.net

                                          I'm talking about all of the misogyny crap today because folks keep speaking for me and saying I'm one of Fedi's big boosters.

                                          It's true, I do prefer this place to corporate driven social media. But I want to be abundantly clear, I don't feel welcome here. Not really.

                                          I get garbage sent my way that would give you therapy bills. And largely, as a quirk of decentralization, most of you won't ever see it.

                                          Fedi is like being gaslit, every time I use it. And I need to flipping say that.

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                                          #41

                                          @vkc I really appreciate your work here (as well as on YouTube), and I am glad that people like you contribute the Fediverse. Recently in German Mastodon another woman issued hate speech she is receiving on a regular basis. It‘s a shame, and it‘s simply against everything the Fediverse was built for. Please feel my/our support!

                                          PS: And I apologize for my remark earlier today, which I made while not having understood well the things you were talking about.

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