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  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

    afouxenidis@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #52

    @jdelacueva Absolutely right. @EUCommission

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    • matv1@mastodon.socialM matv1@mastodon.social

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission
      What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

      Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google 😄

      One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

      rzr@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #53

      https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

      Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

      Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

      I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

      Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

      Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

      Inputs welcome anyway

      @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        jaystephens@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        #54

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission
        Australian here. Don't even know at what layer my New South Wales State Government app isn't playing nice with GrapheneOS... but it doesn't bloody work mate.
        I share your anger.

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        • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          herman@mastodon.worldH This user is from outside of this forum
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          herman@mastodon.world
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #55

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission 🤪🔨

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          • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            katzenberger@tldr.nettime.orgK This user is from outside of this forum
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            katzenberger@tldr.nettime.org
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            #56

            @jdelacueva

            Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm currently able to add a passkey as a second factor, under "Manage my Trusted Platforms, Security Keys and Passkeys".

            That should allow you to use e.g. KeePassDX on Android.

            @EUCommission

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            • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              toastal@types.plT This user is from outside of this forum
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              #57

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission EU should fix this… & their date format to 2026-02-25 like the ISO 8601 standard.

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              • greatlaketrout@noc.socialG greatlaketrout@noc.social

                @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

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                wolf90000@masto.ai
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                #58

                @greatlaketrout The EU is in bed with big tech despite them claiming otherwise (You probably know but this is for the people that don't)

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                • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                  @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

                  scofisticated@socel.netS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #59

                  @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                  I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                  From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                  • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    schrotthaufen@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    schrotthaufen@mastodon.social
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                    #60

                    @EUCommission This is not how to do digital sovereignity. At all. Every mandated and/or taxpayer funded software must run on de-googled Android (LineageOS, GrapheneOS) or postmarketOS if it’s a mobile app, and Linux if it’s a desktop app. (That’s in addition to “regular” Android, iOS, Windows, and macOS.)

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                    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      miah@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
                      miah@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #61

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission getting to the point where you need a dedicated Google device for things like this and then your daily use mobile device. Keep the spyware device in a drawer at home..

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                      • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        anydr0id@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                        anydr0id@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
                        anydr0id@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #62

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you don’t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. ⏬

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                        • anydr0id@mastodon.socialA anydr0id@mastodon.social

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you don’t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. ⏬

                          anydr0id@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                          anydr0id@mastodon.social
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                          #63

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Considering the trend to impose age verification to access social media with the "Fake News" scum and the control of "hate speech" and the possible age verification imposition to use VPN, it makes sense that you are forced to pass the play integrity in more and more official applications in EU agencies and the countries that make it up. ⏬

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                          • anydr0id@mastodon.socialA anydr0id@mastodon.social

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission Considering the trend to impose age verification to access social media with the "Fake News" scum and the control of "hate speech" and the possible age verification imposition to use VPN, it makes sense that you are forced to pass the play integrity in more and more official applications in EU agencies and the countries that make it up. ⏬

                            anydr0id@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            anydr0id@mastodon.social
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #64

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission All this coupled with the efforts they are making to impose the Chat Control plus the dijital ID (which will surely be a Wallet that will have to pass Play Integrity) at the European level what I see is a totalitarian drift towards the end of Internet privacy throughout the EU

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                            • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              lispi314@udongein.xyzL This user is from outside of this forum
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                              lispi314@udongein.xyz
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #65
                              @jdelacueva Handing control of EU infrastructure to the USA for some reason. What a weird idea.
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                              • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloud
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #66

                                @jdelacueva@mastodon.social entire thing about “EU sovereign tech” is to take US tech products and spray EU branding on top.

                                Im also talking about EU OS here lol

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                                • fruitchypear@owo.cafeF fruitchypear@owo.cafe

                                  @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

                                  https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

                                  lumi@snug.moeL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #67

                                  @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission requiring drm for a digital identity wallet... yikes ​​

                                  apps attesting the hardware and software they run on is fundamentally drm and is awful. it's also just completely backwards, apps shouldn't even have the capability to do that

                                  the os should be attesting this, not the apps

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                                  • fruitchypear@owo.cafeF fruitchypear@owo.cafe

                                    @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

                                    https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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                                    #68

                                    @fruitchypear@owo.cafe @greatlaketrout@noc.social @IvanSanchez@mastodon.social @jdelacueva@mastodon.social this being hosted on github is cherry on top

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                                    • jdelacueva@mastodon.socialJ jdelacueva@mastodon.social

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

                                      urp74@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #69

                                      @jdelacueva

                                      Works fine on /e/OS however...

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                                      • scofisticated@socel.netS scofisticated@socel.net

                                        @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                        I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                                        From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

                                        gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #70

                                        @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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                                        • gokushrm@mastodon.socialG gokushrm@mastodon.social

                                          @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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                                          #71

                                          @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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