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  3. Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE.

Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE.

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  • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

    Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE. Don't do it. You look stupid and the receivers of that feel insulted.

    We are humans. We communicate like humans. Fine, use the tools you like, but don't insult us.

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    #27

    @bagder I have no business talking with aiparrots. If I wanted an airesponse I would've asked the AI myself.

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    • safigo@c.imS safigo@c.im

      @mk @bagder why?

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      #28

      @safigo @mk I'll answer literally since your "why?" seems well-intentioned, given your other comments.

      Painting a choice between "AI slop description" and "no description at all" is a false dicothomy, which is a rhetorical fallacy ill-intentioned people try to pull: portraying a bad-thing-X as "X or even-worse-Y". It's a fallacy because those are not the only options. The issue/PR author always has the 3rd option of writing a normal human message. That's why you got the "false dilemma" reply.

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      • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

        Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE. Don't do it. You look stupid and the receivers of that feel insulted.

        We are humans. We communicate like humans. Fine, use the tools you like, but don't insult us.

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        #29
        @bagder "Let me Google that for you," but in 2026 😅
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        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

          Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE. Don't do it. You look stupid and the receivers of that feel insulted.

          We are humans. We communicate like humans. Fine, use the tools you like, but don't insult us.

          mintyfries@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #30

          @bagder At work, I had a report with data I pulled every week for the past year. Beautifully streamlined and perfectly easy to understand. An idiot manager asked for a report on exactly what I had. I sent it to him. He fed it to an AI which hallucinated most of the data incorrectly and turned my charts into a jittery slop mess. He said, thanks, I'll use the report I got from Claude.

          You mean the report I spent a year meticulously updating before you fed it into a woodchipper?

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          • hisham_hm@mastodon.socialH hisham_hm@mastodon.social

            @safigo @mk I'll answer literally since your "why?" seems well-intentioned, given your other comments.

            Painting a choice between "AI slop description" and "no description at all" is a false dicothomy, which is a rhetorical fallacy ill-intentioned people try to pull: portraying a bad-thing-X as "X or even-worse-Y". It's a fallacy because those are not the only options. The issue/PR author always has the 3rd option of writing a normal human message. That's why you got the "false dilemma" reply.

            safigo@c.imS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #31

            @hisham_hm @mk thanks for the detailed explanation

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              #32

              @bboreham.bsky.social The problem is you don't know if it is slop copy-paste or a genuine human response because — and it might be a shock to a lot of people who love TL:DR's and hate long one-piece messages instead of 50 one-sentence messages — people actually are capable of writing more than 10 words when they want to be understood correctly or to show their logic behind their answer. Also things are often complex and cannot be simplified down to a catchphrase.

              Redis or Memcashed (example from the link)? I don't know the subject, I don't even know if it is entirely fictional for the purpose of example but I certainly know that the answer never will be just Redis or just Memcashed. Because it depends. Because people can have opinions. With a logic behind those opinions, how they arrived to stand with Redis/Memcashed. And logic — this is the bit that is important and cannot be simplified.

              Also, AI style isn't the unique AI style. It is result of training. On human text.

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              • lemonid@mastodon.mlL lemonid@mastodon.ml

                @bboreham.bsky.social The problem is you don't know if it is slop copy-paste or a genuine human response because — and it might be a shock to a lot of people who love TL:DR's and hate long one-piece messages instead of 50 one-sentence messages — people actually are capable of writing more than 10 words when they want to be understood correctly or to show their logic behind their answer. Also things are often complex and cannot be simplified down to a catchphrase.

                Redis or Memcashed (example from the link)? I don't know the subject, I don't even know if it is entirely fictional for the purpose of example but I certainly know that the answer never will be just Redis or just Memcashed. Because it depends. Because people can have opinions. With a logic behind those opinions, how they arrived to stand with Redis/Memcashed. And logic — this is the bit that is important and cannot be simplified.

                Also, AI style isn't the unique AI style. It is result of training. On human text.

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                #33

                @bboreham.bsky.social P.S.

                I, myself, am AI sceptic. I don't use it, the more I hear about it the more reasons I have to hate it. This "no slop grenade" shit — is one of them. We can't even trust if a person wrote their genuine thoughts to you or if they just ctrl+c ctrl+v AI slop to you.

                Oh, it is long? It has structure? It is generally grammatically correct? Welp, that's certainly AI because, quote: "Nobody writes essays in Slack. It's only possible because of AI copy-paste."

                I call bullshit. I write essays in chat. All the time. Been doing it my whole life. And now, instead of "that was great explanation" or "thank you for clarity" I will get "here is no slop grenade, begone"? No in hell, I won't!

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                • lemonid@mastodon.mlL lemonid@mastodon.ml

                  @bboreham.bsky.social P.S.

                  I, myself, am AI sceptic. I don't use it, the more I hear about it the more reasons I have to hate it. This "no slop grenade" shit — is one of them. We can't even trust if a person wrote their genuine thoughts to you or if they just ctrl+c ctrl+v AI slop to you.

                  Oh, it is long? It has structure? It is generally grammatically correct? Welp, that's certainly AI because, quote: "Nobody writes essays in Slack. It's only possible because of AI copy-paste."

                  I call bullshit. I write essays in chat. All the time. Been doing it my whole life. And now, instead of "that was great explanation" or "thank you for clarity" I will get "here is no slop grenade, begone"? No in hell, I won't!

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                  #34

                  @bboreham.bsky.social and honestly, I don't know what to do with it. If we will punish those, who clearly state "I asked AI here is a copy paste" (and that kind of people thankfully still exist) — they simply will stop... leading with "I asked AI here is a copy paste" and just will copy paste without any indication whatsoever. And then you are stuck with questioning "is it AI or not?" each time you see a post longer than 20 words.

                  And noslopgrenade.com won't save you. People copy pasting AI responses will not understand your demand "not AI please". Especially in such a passive-aggressive manner as "here is a link with term 'slop' in it to a whole site dedicated to roasting what you just did with your AI thing because I can't be bothered to even do it myself". They will not understand. They wanted to help. They got from conversation, talked with the thing, sent result to you. They think they did work.

                  And this 3-posts long rumbling is a proof not only AI can write long.

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                    #35

                    @bboreham.bsky.social +9001%

                    People who use #AIslop as reply need to be banned from all communications alongside the kind of people that send unsolicited dick pics!

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                    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                      Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE. Don't do it. You look stupid and the receivers of that feel insulted.

                      We are humans. We communicate like humans. Fine, use the tools you like, but don't insult us.

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                      #36

                      @bagder I’ve started to reply AI;DR to slop-responses, or links to slop websites that people throw at me.

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                      • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                        Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE. Don't do it. You look stupid and the receivers of that feel insulted.

                        We are humans. We communicate like humans. Fine, use the tools you like, but don't insult us.

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                        #37

                        @bagder You’re absolutely right!

                        SCNR! 😄

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                        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                          Pasting a huge AI generated explanation to a problem in an issue or pull-request is nothing but RUDE. Don't do it. You look stupid and the receivers of that feel insulted.

                          We are humans. We communicate like humans. Fine, use the tools you like, but don't insult us.

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                          #38

                          @bagder "if i want the opinion of an LLM i would ask it myself."

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